ヴァンパイア・ダイアリーズ(TV)
ヴァンパイア・ダイアリーズ(TV) ▶ お気に入り S3 character |Round 13 ELIMINATION| Vote for your LEAST お気に入り
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Bonnie
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Rebekah
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✔10. Elijah
✔11. Tyler
✔12. Matt
✔13. Anna
✔14. Meredith
✔15. Jeremy
✔16. Liz
✔17. Kol
✔18. Bill
✔19. Sage
✔20. Mikael
✔21. Finn
✔22. Carol
✔23. Jamie
✔24. Abby
✔25. Vicki
✔26. Esther
Bonnie shouldn't be punished for not being some ditz who forgives grievances because the man who did it has pretty blue eyes (don't be desperate). She should be able to have moments of uncertainty (with Caroline's transformation) because really how would you act if your best friend turned out to be a fearsome vampire who you've been told not to trust. Bonnie is one of thee most realistic character on the show. Period.
Its a pity and a shame that girls would rather turn their nose down at a character with such strong morals, beliefs, loyalty and selflessness than to celebrate her as a strong minded young woman.
Any excuse you give for not 'being fond of or hating' Bonnie... turn and look at the other girls faults (while turning off your obvious bias) there is no contest.
Good day!
Roswellgirl: You have the link where she said this? She's not a good friend? Care slaughtered the young man she liked, while Damon joked about it. KATHERINE killed Care, she's the reason for Caroline being a vampire. Get your facts straight. Bonnie died for Elena, sacrifices her own happiness and blood to keep ungrateful, selfish self-entitled friends who benefit from her powers without suffering the brutal consequences.
TeamBonnie. :)
@MariLena16
You're right! There are reasons Bonnie is disliked, and those reasons run the gambit. Here are but a few:
1. She isn't stupid.
2. She isn't psychotic.
3. She's isn't the blue-eyed nymph (Damon) sniffing after Elena's magical va-ja-ja.
4. She uses common sense.
5. She has an opinion.
6. She calls it like she sees it and doesn't give a rat's balls whether vamps, tramps, werewolves or witches like it or not.
But hey, I get it. If I was a chick, I'd hate her too. I figure girls would rather be the damsel in distress than the bitch who saves the day.
Oh and just to make this clear, some fans don't need to be from the states to pick up on it. Fangirls operate on a different level and I figured, this is there operative mode.
@ delenaluv – I plead with you, tell me, what has Stefan done to Elena that Damon hasn’t out done him with? Stefan threatening Elena over the bridge her parents died at was a terrible thing to do but was it equal to Damon snapping her brother’s neck… in front of her? Alaric’s neck? I won’t go on with the Damon offenses because you watch the show, but which is easier to forgive? I swear some of you people have amnesia only when it suits your needs. Flip the switch and have Stefan do HALF the crap Damon does to Elena (and continues to do) you all would be crying foul.
Your other point was lost because the text-talk (though simple enough) confused me. If you could re-enlighten me I’d appreciate it. Thanks : )
@ MariLena16 – I’m glad I could provide you with a laugh. Really.
And yet… I don’t HAVE to accept anything. I don’t HAVE to deal with anything least of all bullshit. I ship Bonnie with EVERYONE and I do mean everyone (aside from Jeremy and Jamie.) My right to do so. One day I’m all for Bamon and the next I’m shipping Klonnie and if I’m feeling particularly adventurous I’ll ship her with Dean Winchester. Difference being I’m not the type of fan who thinks you have to 100% support the actions of the people you ship for it to be a viable and liked ship. That is why I can ship Bonnie with Damon and whoever else lights my fire and gets me off. Do I tell you not to ship what you like? Honestly, why do you care who I ship, my badass ships have nothing to do with your boats.
Damon gets criticized because some people refuse to see his faults. People pettifog his downfalls and actually glorify them as if he’s some sort of demigod who can do what he wants with no backlash even when he deserves it, needs it even. Furthermore, does the criticism of a character mean you cannot be a fan of that exact same character? What kind of basic character can’t be criticized!? Winnie the Pooh?
As for the hypocrite comment? Sweetie please. If it’s just a show, not a big deal and not reality (Who the fuck told you vampires aren’t real? Dammit there goes my life aspirations) then you wouldn’t have taken your sweet time to respond in favor of Damon who obviously you felt I wronged. You mad?
So, I’ll tell you like I told your buddy…. Loving and supporting your ship does not mean you overlook the faults within that ship. Doesn’t mean you put on blinders and pretend that things are prefect. Often times those faults and imperfections are what makes your ship interesting, it’s what makes that ship strong. This is why people think Damon’s fans have one track minds… if you owned up to his shortcoming and said… you know what Damon has done some fucked up things (while holding him accountable and not throwing Stefan under the bus while doing it) but here’s why I think he’s good for my ship (insert your reasons here). He’d be better received. Even more so than he is now.
Bonnie fans would have no problem with TVD fans if you guys didn’t go out of your way to create hate for her. You can dislike her all day long, be my guest (as I severely dislike Elena) but when you aggressively try to ostracize a character and that character’s fans just because it’s Tuesday, that’s when things get sticky. I would have had no real issue with Delena but some of the fans of that ship can drive a sinner to church. The bad fans have made the ship un-enjoyable for me.
Anyway, the whole of your comment was… still confusing (You should work on that). I don’t know how this turned into a thing about ships because that wasn’t the intent of this poll.
My original comment certainly didn’t mention any ships which leads me to believe, for at least you two, that Bonnie threatens your ship (in your minds) and therefore she must be disposed of. Why else would you bring it ‘round to Bamon v.s whatever-the-hell you guys were talking about. Does it always have to be about ships? **eyeroll**
I try to be decent when commenting around Damon/Elena fans. I really do. But one thing I’ll never let fly is someone trying to sit me down (I like standing up) or someone trying to shut me up.
You ship Delena and be happy and I’ll ship Bonnie/harem and do the same.
**flips hair and rolls out**
I think it's fair to say that all TVD fans see Damon's faults. The crux of it is, for certain fans, "his faults" are not an issue. Fans of the character would gladly accept it if it meant the pairing of one's dreams. I think Delena and Bamon fans have that in common.
I don't agree with that other person calling anyone a hypocrite. Unless this person knows you, in the biblical sense, then I think it might be wise for her (and anyone else who shares that person's sentiment) to zip-it.
By the way, Jolie-Monster, from the looks of it, you're a terrific debator. Have you ever visited the debate section of fanpop? It's got everything you can sink your teeth into. Give it a try! It has some controversial questions and some not-so-controversial questions but I gaurantee, you'll enjoy or even be intrigued by some of the answers.
I agree that most everyone will acknowledge that Damon has issues. I also agree that both Delena and Bamon fans are willing to skirt over Damon's faults in the interest of their beloved ship. That’s fine. My issue is when you are questioned as a fan of his (and your ships) because you state an observance in his behavior. No one really climbs the walls when Stefan’s character is put on front street, why should Damon be any different? It’s baffling.
I had no idea there was a debating section on Fanpop. Maybe I'll check it out (I'll promise to try to be civil). I think I drive my friends and boyfriend crazy with my stalwart need to debate (or as my bf says... my need to be right lol). Thank you for the heads up! <3
Also, I loved your previous comment. Didn't see it until now!
Hmmm.... I guess you is mad. Hold on while I think of which FUCK I want to give....
In light of your 'I-think-I'm-telling-you-off' tone I'm going to try and keep it... light. Might fail.
Not going there with you on the Elena dying thing. But I will say that she’s still alive and that Elena told him to save Matt first. Stefan did not wake up and say, ‘you know, fuck it I’m killing Elena today. That bitch is dead.’ Try again, deary. Annnndddd.... your sarcasm is in need of a fine tune. Once more with feeling! ;) And please don't make me read that second grade garbage again. Please.
Damon was initially brought up because so far a great deal of Bonnie hate is rooted in how she treats Damon. By the way, Caroline was also mentioned but I don’t see you marching in her honor. Wonder why?
As for your introduction of ships… no clue why you even brought it up. It was not relevant to the topic.
Does the fact that you are so wholly offended by my remarks about Damon being too easily forgiven mean that you are guilty of this accusation? If you are not... then why is your blood pressure rising higher than Rosie O’Donnell’s on meatloaf night?
No problem with you being 'understanding' and 'sympathetic' towards Damon's character, delenaluv. I can most certainly understand why he does what he does most times. Love is a powerful drug. Though what I am seeking from the fans is accountability, or better yet scrap that because it'll never happen on the show or otherwise, however it shouldn't be such blasphemy for someone to point out his flaws/faults the few times people venture to do as such. That’s all I’m saying. Bonnie gets vocal hate from here to Pluto and most times I’ll let it ride but other times I’m compelled to speak out for her. Difference? Bonnie’s hate is largely unfounded. If someone gave a factual reason for hating Bonnie I’d read it and keep it moving. Yet, when someone says they hate Bonnie because she was a bitch for giving Damon an aneurism (he deserves every single one) then my bullshit alarm goes berserk. You’re fishing for a reason, now.
Again I'm in need of some clarity (I thought we had this conversation.) Are you saying that because you perceive Bonnie as unsympathetic and non-tolerant that she should be alone? What kind of actual fuck are you going on about now?
Me. Work on comprehension... did she just....? Here is why you should work on your own skills....
I never said you couldn't be the master of your ships, in fact I've been saying the polar opposite. Delenaluv, you can ship whoever you want (read that once more). If you want Damon with Elena I'll roll out the red carpet for you. If you want Damon shipped with the crow from season 1 – have at it! If you’d like Bonnie to be alone... good for you. Don't put words in my mouth... unless its alphabet shaped cookies. I like those. ..
You know, I think Bonnie does get to you. Here's why: as secondary as she is... as horrible as her screen time is, Bonnie still has fans. She's only had one true ship... but people still ship her with other people and they ship her hard. You're mad because although you try to plant hate within the TVD fandom towards Bonnie she still gains fans. We're coastin’ and it burns you up. You probably spend most your time thinking about Bonnie instead of your own ship. It's okay, it’s one of the many side effects of her awesomeness. Learn it.
Anyway, you could have at least been creative and come up with your own closing remark. Honored that you would reuse mine, truly.
But I'm going to pocket your middle finger... and raise you two more. BAM! ;)
@ delenaluv -- **blinks incredulously** I think my IQ just plummeted. Greatly.
It seems you have not an original thought in your head. Stop reusing my shit! This whole thing should not have turned ugly between us. If you had remained respectful in your rebuttal this could have gone in a civil manner but alas, it shan’t have happened. Pity.
You are obviously in over your head and cannot further your points (or lack thereof) or you have no point at all. Your post burned my eyes with regret for having read it. And… no… your writing skills… (shakes my head ruefully) yeah, they’re bad. I know seven year olds that can compose sentences that are more comprehensible.
Any and everything you ‘questioned’ me about has been answered quite clearly in one of my previous posts. Learn to listen half as much as you rant and you may gain some clarity on my stance. I’m not inclined to repeat myself on those topics.
Dear, it’s quite clear who’s ruled by their emotions in this… exchange. It aint me sweet cheeks.
I respect you decision to bow out of this ‘friendly debate’. The most interesting thing you’ve done thus far. Yet--I will miss the cookies you fed me!
"I don't have a reason to be biased."
My observation is not an indictment against you or anyone else who've commented on this poll. It's just a small piece of information that I've picked up along the way. So please, take it with a grain of salt.
We all possess hidden biases. We all have negative prejudices that we are not consciously aware of. These unconscious prejudices may not have anything to do with race. They may involved the color of a person's hair or eyes, or it may involve the way a person speaks, walks, dresses or carries him/herself. Either way, we all have reasons to be biased against or in favor of those we enjoy or dislike.
Therefore, when someone states they're not interested in a person or character, there is always a reason for it; and there is most definitely a bias behind it.
One other thing, you're right. This is ridiculous. The poll was ridiculous...and I'm sorry I wasted my time on it.
@Jolie-Monster:
This reply doesn't have anything to do with you. I'm just re-evaluating my time here and coming up blank as to why I've wasted minutes of precious time on it. Anyway, have a good one!
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