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Before I begin, I’d like to set one thing straight: I’m not against Twilight fans. I respect あなた and your opinions. I just have different ones. These reasons are opinion and fact mixed together. Please don't disrespect me for my opinions. Also, warning: This will be long.

After completely the Harry Potter series, I looked for the 次 “big thing.” Being in middle school, the 次 “big thing” was the Twilight Saga. Sure, why not. I read them through once. I didn’t 愛 it. I didn’t hate it. It was just another book. I never laughed, または cried. It never pulled any emotion out of me in the way Harry Potter did.

After a little break, I decided to reread the books. Maybe this time I would cry when Edward left Bella. Maybe I would laugh when she broke her fist punching Jacob. Maybe I would really think that it was just as good as Harry Potter.

Rereading the books, I did laugh. I wanted to cry. Because I had realized what a literary failure this was. I had realized just why Hermione is so much better than Bella, discovered the reasons that Harry Potter was so much better. I realized the absence of a plot and the fact that characters are all static and unlovable.

And I decided that I really, really hated Bella Swan.

As a whole, the Twilight Saga is just a pesky fad. I don’t particularly loathe または hate it. It’s a book I read that I thought that it was badly written, the plot nonexistent, and the characters poorly constructed. The one thing I hated about the series, that I really couldn’t stand, was Bella.

The main reason I couldn’t stand her was because of her complete and utter crap role model, as well as a very poor character. Here are some of the many, many reasons.

1.)    Her first 日 of school. I have also been a new girl in a small town (yes, just as small as Forks) and trust me, あなた don’t have guys falling over to help you, trying to get your attention, and あなた absolutely don’t have フレンズ on the first 日 of school. (I will admit, however, that it’s not only Twilight that has this problem. Many 本 series unrealistically have New Girl / ダサかわ女子と三銃士 heroines with instant friends. Not true!)

2.)    Oh, my life just stinks! I have a boyfriend who’s obsessed with me, loving parents, フレンズ who I completely ignore, and oh, woe-is-me! Bella is constantly whining about everything she can’t have, when she already has so much! “I 愛 Edward! Edward won’t let me キッス him! I 愛 Edward! Edward won’t let me see Jacob! I 愛 Edward! Oh my gosh, I 愛 Jacob but I 愛 Edward more! I 愛 Edward!” That, my friends, is the summary of four books.

3.)    Bella is completely and utterly male-dependent. Oh my life just stinks, oh wait, there’s a hot guy! All better! The hot guy left me? Here’s another one! All better! Uh-oh, now I have to choose! When she doesn’t have Edward または Jacob によって her side, she is a zombie. She is never shown as fighting または being strong, only hiding in the background while Jacob and Edward do her work for her.

4.)    The Break-Up. How pathetic can あなた get? This is where the role-model part comes in. If you’ll forgive me, I’m going to do a little Bella-Hermione comparison. Bella: “Okay girls, if your boyfriend leaves you, あなた are nothing. Go jump off a cliff.” Hermione: “Okay girls, if your boyfriend leaves you, it’s okay to cry for a while, but あなた have to pull yourself together and keep on going.”

5.)    The Shield. Mary Sue alert! Of course they wouldn’t have won the battle without Bella! Her shield is oh so super important! One of the main signs of a Mary Sue is that the “good guys” couldn’t win the battle against the “bad guys” without the Mary Sue. Hmm. Sound familiar? Breaking Dawn, page 742, “So, it was a combination of things there at the end, but what it really boiled down to was…Bella.”

6.)    Skipping the newborn bloodthirstiness. Another Mary Sue alert! Bella is too perfect to go through the bloodthirstiness of being a newborn, of course. Incredibly annoying and unrealistic.

7.)    Bella is a terrible friend. She has friends, and then completely ignores them to spend all her time with her boyfriend. When her boyfriend is gone, she expects her フレンズ to 愛 and hug her and accept her back! If they don’t, they are the terrible friends. But oh, when Edward gets back, good-bye amigos. She completely uses her friends, barely paying attention to them when Edward is around.

8.)    Despite the fact that Bella is a personality devoid, whiny brat, everybody adores her. Mary Sue much? If あなた don’t adore Bella, あなた are portrayed as a shallow 雌犬 または an enemy.

9.)    Bella just isn’t very intelligent. Sure, she reads classics and gets good grades so that she seems smart, but when she finds out that a guy has been watching her sleep for two months, oh, it’s just so gosh darn romantic! I’d bet that if he hadn’t been an incredibly hot vampire, she would have screamed and called for her dad. Shallow much?

10.)    All she cares about is Edward’s looks. The only thing she can do is moon on about his eyes, his hair, those eyes. And how perfect he is. The piano? Expert. Smart? Of course! The relationship doesn’t 移動する beyond Edward’s looks and his supposed perfection. Does she care that he controls who she sees, who her フレンズ are, and follows her (or has Alice follow her) wherever she goes, the exact traits of an abusive boyfriend? Nope, because he has those gorgeous eyes…

All in all, Bella is a Mary Sue self insertion, similar to those found in ファン fiction によって 14 年 olds. I apologize if I got my facts wrong または exaggerated. Please let me know if I made a technical error and/or a mistake. No, telling me, “Bella does have personality!” is not a mistake I made. It is your opinion. I have mine, and あなた have yours.

Thanks for reading!
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Ok, well I'm going to be perfectly respectful in this 記事 because I don't want to make anyone mad, I just want to make a point. If あなた agree または disagree with it, that's up to you. Please don't be rude inthe コメント section, and give reasons for opinions. Thanks!

Now I can start. May I just start によって saying that I am on the Harry Potter side (with all due respect to Twilight fans)

I've noticed that one of the things Twilight ファン say is that Bella is a もっと見る relatable character than Harry. I think that that is a good point because technically, あなた can be a normal teenager who goes to school...
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posted by LavenderBrown
Some people (not necessarily Americans) have admitted having trouble with the British words in Harry Potter. To solve this problem, I give you...An Americans Guide to British words!

1) Prat
Someone who is described as being dumb または self centered. Usually acts against logic.
e.x. Jeez, Roldolfo is such a prat!

2) Git
Basically, a jerk. Shallow and/or childish.
e.x. Look at that git, strutting around like he owns the place!

3) Err...
The British equivalent of umm...
e.x. "Errr.... is it 42?"

4) Barmy
Insane/Crazy.
e.x. That old mans gone barmy!

5.) Blast
Equivalent to "Dang!"
e.x. Blast! Some git's taken...
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posted by SpeedyGonzalez
I Speedy Gonzalez did not write this I merely copied and pasted it. The original may be found link.

I got Breaking Dawn on the 日 that it came out and was hoping that Meyer would somehow redeem the steadily deteriorating quality of the Twilight series. What a huge disappointment. I was even もっと見る disappointed when I found out how Meyer was responding to the criticism towards it. Then I discovered that she was 書く Midnight Sun. I looked フォワード, 前進, 楽しみにして to that because, even though all of the 本 suck, they are a guilty pleasure and Twilight was the best of all of them. Then she stopped writing...
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posted by lilcherrywine
Dear friends,
This is my first attempt at 書く a creative article. I've attempted the フェイスブック page of HP, and hope あなた like it. Sorry for the lame humor, it's my very first time. Thanks for reading, and please drop in your comments, because I need your opinion. Thanks again.


HP’S fb page


HARRY POTTER

Went to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
Lives in London.
Knows English, Parseltongue
From Godric’s Hollow
Born on July 31, 1880




Cho Chang: Harry, I had a trip with dad and mom to Forks last week and I spotted Cedric there. Yes, Harry, I saw him. I don’t know what’s happening, I mean,...
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Now to anyone of the teensy-beensy minority that has never heard of Twilight's male protagonist, Edward Cullen, he supposedly a vampire that falls in deep "love" with a human girl named Bella.

Now I must object to this 説明 of the Edward and Bella (Edella または Bedward, lol). While the relationship is described as being true love, I personally think that the relationship is any BUT deep, true love. It is, in my, along with many other fanpoppers, opinion that this relationship is extraordinarily unhealthy and codependent, and that Edward's supposed "love" is obsessive love.

Obsessive love:...
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posted by PotterLambert93
Today, I read a post from "youknowit101" on "1000 Reason why Twilight is better than harry Potter", and it completley gave me 秒 thoughts about this whole thing between the rival series. According to this guy, he is very ashamed at the HP ファン for attacking the Twilight ファン and how immature they are, and to be honest, I now couldn't agree more. He's right, HP fans, we are the immature ones, not the Twilighters. We Potterheads are taking HP for granted and using it to rub it in other people's faces.

Now I see why Twilight ファン barley respond to the debates and articles, and it's because...
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posted by sy-sy
why deos twilight annoy me? because when twilight came out everyone 4 got hp then the new hp movie came out and they loved hp again thgen twilight movie came out people just cant make up their minds well i can ive seen all the hp movie so far and twilight and even though hp leave s out some stuff its still TEN times better twilight is annoying becuz they think they can come in and steal the whole 表示する that why oppion of a hpfan gcsfdsjhvcdshvcwrivhrweuvghbersvksfdhvsklvhjsdfvklsdfvb dfc bvhdx jkhdfvoperfcujrehvcjfdvhhhjukdsxhcdsjcv
Okay, so a lot of people have been asking that I put もっと見る ディベート stuff and reasons why I think Twilight is better. Now that we're all フレンズ and don't hate eachother anymore, I hope we can all have a reasonable debate.

But before I start, I want to say that I don't compleatley hate Harry Potter anymore. I saw the Deathly Hallows today, my friend is somewhat of a fan, and wanted to see it. I reluctaintly went with her, and it actually wasn't that bad. あなた see, I read the first-fourth Harry Potter books, and read most of the seventh. The Deathly Hallows movie was much better than the book in...
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Hello everyone!

I'm planning on 書く a letter to Stephenie Meyer regarding the Twilight series. I wanted to address all the points many people do not like in the series. The letter is going to be friendly and straight-forward. I wanted to hear what everyone would want me to include. These are a few of the topics I am going to be including:

- Anti-feminism
- Abusive relationship
- Unhealthy obsession
- Lust does not equal 愛
- Bella is horribly rude to her フレンズ (not valued friendships)

These are just a few. Please add anything and if there is something specific you'd like me to add.

I'll be working on this letter and posting on Sunday on Fanpop, so I can add anything else and have your approval and then I will send it to her.
I understand that Seth probably won't let it get to her, but it's worth a shot and I will post his reply (assuming he does reply.)

Thank you! :)
posted by Kassaremidylynn
I wrote this a while 前 for my English class. We had to write about something we felt strongly about, and I feel very strongly about this, so...

Many people think that I would be an avid Twilight lover and a hater of the Harry Potter 本 after their first impression. What they see may seem to point to that: I’m a fifteen 年 old girl who devours books, is a self-proclaimed hopeless romantic, loves all things vampire related, and I wear a ton of black. In reality, this couldn’t be far from the truth. It is actually the complete opposite. I absolutely despise anything Twilight related...
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