Joseph モーガン, モルガン Sorts Out Klaus' Complicated Feelings for Hayley, Caroline and (So Many) Others 

‘ Klaus Mikaelson sure does have a lot of special ladies in his life.

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Friday’s episode (The CW, 9/8c) marks star Joseph Morgan‘s first turn as director — he knows actors usually have to wait until at least Season 5 to direct an episode, but as he says, “This 

my season five” as Klaus — and while we had him on the horn, we used the opportunity to sort out his character’s many complicated relationships, which only seem to get messier by the week.

“I suppose everybody has a slightly different take on it, from the fans to the writers to the actors,” Morgan tells TVLine. “But my take on it is this: There’s not one woman that Klaus is like, ‘That’s who I love! It’s definitely her above everyone else!\'”

And that “her” could mean any number of people, from Hayley, the mother of his child, to Caroline, the one that got away, to Cami, the woman who sees the man inside the monster. So… why haven’t any of these relationships stuck?

“He’s a tortured soul, and that’s why he doesn’t have a relationship that works with any of them,” Morgan concedes. “If you really think about it, we haven’t seen him have a single relationship that lasts in the whole course of him being on both [

Click into our gallery for Morgan’s thoughts on Klaus’ carousel of ladies, then drop a comment with your own thoughts: How do you hope these complicated relationships (eventually) sort themselves out?

Klaroline all the way! Klaus and Caroline will forever be the best Klaus relationship ever. It was epic

Just no. Nothing about it was “epic”. What they had was mostly flirtation and manipulation, no depth. Wheter you like it or not he has had more meaningful moments with both Hayley and Cami and I don’t ship Klaus with anyone. Just calling it as I see it.

Different strokes! I see far more manipulation in his relationships with both Cami and Hayley then I do in his relationship with Caroline. Klaroline is so popular because it brings out new facets of both Caroline and Klaus as individuals. I was open to Klaus having new relationships when the spinoff was announced but nothing they’ve given me thus far has been all that compelling.

Because klaus doesn’t manipulate and hurt Cami or Hayley? Do you even watch the show. Michael Narducci is that you?

I didn’t say he didn’t. I don’t like Klaus so I don’t ship him with anyone. I just never saw any real friendship between Klaus and Caroline like I have seen between him and Cami and even Hayley.

You don’t ship anything and yet your only refuting Klaroline comments? Hmm… But, in all seriousness Klaus was the villain on TVD. Caroline’s reactions to him made total sense. And once they moved past that he’s always been there for her. We haven’t seen much of him and Hayley this season but where’s this real friendship with Cami? Last time we saw them together he blew in, expected her to drop everything and listen to his problems, without even bothering to ask her about how she was coping. It’s always been all about Klaus’ needs/wants/problems, totally one-sided. And honestly JM’s answer reflects that.

Because I don’t think those comments make any sense. They just didn’t show them to have some “epic love story”. I don’t like Stelena or Delena but I can still see how they can be seen to have had an “epic love story”. The writers made a real effort to paint them that way.

Why does every relationship have to be an ‘epic love story?’ That’s so boring after awhile. TBH, I think that’s a big part of the reason why Klamille failed to gain much traction. They practically had a neon sign pointing at her head saying, “THIS IS KLAUS’ NEW EPIC LOVE! ISN’T SHE AWESOME?!’ from the very beginning with nothing to back it up. And it’s part of the reason why SC gets such mixed reviews because we’ve already seen Stefan in an ‘epic love’ ship and it was done better.

….I didn’t say that every relationship had to be an “epic love story”. I said the comments that claim that Klaroline were one doesn’t make sense.

But the OP in this thread really didn’t? ‘They were epic’ could very well just mean ‘they were great.’

A like that Cami is in the group of “so many others” lol yep that says a lot.

He’s a better person & father to Hope because of Cami. Yes, yes and YES. Klamille.

I know right! The fact that he credits Cami for klaus’s character development says a lot.Klamille forever

PS. Cami is going to be killed 3×19 by Lucien and his killer bite.

Klaus and Caroline is love. I don’t think he would hesitate at all if he had to choose between Caroline and Aurora. He intends to be her last love, however long it takes. I think he is pretty aware of who he loves above all.

This is pretty fair from Joseph…although I’m always rooting for Klaus and Caroline.

Klaus and Hayley have finally a deep understand. They’re partners right now, because they forgive each other. I can´t imagine Aurora, Kami or Caroline make that unbelievable force to stay Klaus’s side. But she did, because Hayley is very similar of Klaus and she wants a family, your own family. Just like Klaus.

Aurora, Kami or Caroline are just illusions. They imagine who Niklaus is in reality someone bad or good. They’re equals, the same thing for centuries. These are not a truly love.

Klayley is about deep feelings, about real moments and vibrant souls. They’re in another level.

LOL. It kind of says a lot that the ship the show’s been pushing all season doesn’t even make the headline, doesn’t it? And the ‘dead’ one gets more coverage then all the others. But for the most part I agree with all that he said. I do wish Aurora would have been fleshed out more. They kind of made her a one note foil to Cami when it really could have been an interesting thing to explore. And I thought he had good chemistry with the actress! Easily the best since Klaus’ TVD days. JM hass always seemed to understand Klaus better then anyone. I look forward to watching his episode tonight!

Whether you like klaroline or not his best chemistry has always been with Candice which is why KC remains his biggest ship. Jomo has chemistry with Claire too but they’re siblings so nothing to see there lol

That’s why I find it to be the most shallow ship as well. It’s mostly about chemistry and fans made it in to something more than it was. It’s just nothing to get invested in.

Judging by your other comments you don’t even know what your talking about

Klayley is endgame. Hayley is his family and family always comes first for Klaus. Plus finally their relationship is developing. Like Davina said Hayley is the one Klaus fears most because she’s the one he’s scared of falling in love with. Everyone else is just temporary for Klaus. The fact that Klaus can’t even decide who he’d pick between Aurora and Cami if they were in a room together show you he’s not in love with either. Sure he loves both women, buts its clear if his heart isn’t with one person he’s not in love with them. Klaus is just like Hayley indecisive about their romantic interest, ala Elijah and Jackson, but at the end of the day they’re not in love with any of them. Probably because they have found the one. I’m pretty that Klaus and Hayley belong together and their true love and the person they fall in love with will be each other once they finally let the other in. Klayley s4

listen,if we’re seeing things how they are,the people who brought more change and raw feeling in klaus,were caroline and hope. he’s utterly selfless with them both,whilst with the others he takes what he needs,does for them what benefits him and has their places in his life revolving around what he wants. with caroline we’ve seen this countless of times lbr,he puts her happiness and needs above his own whilst with cami/hayley/aurora when he does something like this for them is not really for them,he’s hungry and he craves attention and love,he’s possessive and wants to satisfy his cravings using other people to indirectly do it because he doesn’t know how to do it for himself,he just isn’t there yet. he uses people,he manipulates,that much is clear. but with these two people,caroline and hope,we’ve seen something so fresh and beautiful bloom,it’s so out of character for the klaus,the original big bad hybrid,and yet it isn’t,because with them he isn’t this persona,he is himself,and he is frightful,insecure,hurt,impulsive,passion pulses in his mangled,rotted heart,and it breathes,deeply so. rebekah,caroline and hope,in my opinion,are the most important relationship in his life,in a way. of course there’s elijah,his brother,his blood and their connection is thick,there’s also mikael,and esther,and aurora,but the way i see it,those true were the only ones who brought him out,elijah is always supporting him in anything he does,in his most selfish vices,let’s not even talk about mikael and esther; but these three,they have to power to break them,and maybe they will,but the sheer fact that he is capable of being broken more than he already is,damaged and cursed and damned,for his blackened soul to be shattered and spit upon and ripped apart,it’s something he never thought himself ever capable of,he got used to the numbness,he hated himself and he didn’t want to f e e l,but in the end it was all he ever wanted,wasn’t it? to feel,and to hurt,and love and have someone that you’ll make the world bleed for. all he wanted was,for once,to love and to be loved back,and not be casted aside like some abomination,mikael voice whispers to him in his sleep and every waking hour. and he’s sadistic and self- destructive,and he’s bound to crush all those around them to ash,don’t get too close,he says,it’s dark inside,but his eyes plead and ‘give me a chance to prove you who i really am,who i will be,you inspire me’; the whole klaus and caroline relationship is so deep and layered and intricately carved,he’s irrevocably hers and he just wants a chance for her to be his. but he doesn’t take what he wants,what he desperately craves because he respects her,their entire relationship she was the one to set the pace,he wants her,but oh he loves her so much more. her happiness is what he craves,and it’s such a selfishly selfless waltz,but in the end it doesn’t matter,because he needs her more than he needs himself,so he’ll wait,and even when inevitably she lets him love her,their dance will never know an end,he’ll push and embrace,and she’ll shove and pull,but they will be in the same rythm.

so yes,he has many important people on his life,the ones who will try to make him who he wants to be,the ones who will push him to be what they want,but those rare few,the ones that really will inspire him to,not mold,but build himself on not who he wants,but who he ultimately needs himself to be,not for them but b e c a u s e of them,are the ones that will last. they won’t change him,no,their mere act of existing will cause such a clamorous something inside of him,that he will learn to do this himself.

Klaus risked his life to save Cami while he actually tried to kill Caroline. Your post is invalid.

Klaus risked every single vampire in NOLA – including Cami, to help Caroline. Your post is invalid.

He’s also risked his life saving Caroline. Compelled Cami to do whatever he pleased, pimped her off onto Marcel, tried to force her to become a vampire and basically just uses her for his own selfish needs and does the bare minimum for her. He treats he like a toy he doesn’t want to share. How romantic

Uhhhh, yes. For the first time, we saw Klaus being romantic with Caroline, which I never thought was possible. He was romantic with Caroline at the ball & the whole “I intend to be your last” speech was even more romantic. He’s flirtatious with her. Their sexual energy is powerful. He’s vulnerable around her. Their chemistry is undeniable. They fight. They forgive each other. He ALWAYS puts her happiness first. Caroline doesn’t even have to beg Klaus to be a decent person, she doesn’t try and he instantly is civil around her. They have nice laughs together. I mean, the laughs were great. On their date, Klaus seemed so happy for once, and when I watch TO, Klaus looks constantly depressed. I haven’t seen him smile the way Caroline made him smile in a long while. And the first woman to start this “I saw the good in Klaus” trend was Caroline. All of Klaus’ other love interest drew inspiration from Klaroline. Aurora might have fictionally been before, but in reality it came after. And they had to rip off the line “There is light in you so bright” from somewhere right? From Klaroline, “You’re beautiful, you’re strong, you’re full of light.” Klaroline might not have happened in ages, but it still has more chemistry and power than any other ship. The recent phone call proved that. klaroline have the whole package.

Gosh…this is sounding more and more like Camille is dying…

My favorite relationship in the slideshow is the one he has with his daughter. I think when he finally embraced being a father at the end of season one, that’s what changed him a bit. Great interview with Joseph! I am really looking forward to seeing what he did with this episode.

I “ship” Klaus with no one. He just isn’t the type of person to have long term relationships with anyone except his siblings.

Joseph is always so nice about Klaroline, it’s so obvious he still ships them, bless him ! I hope his episode will work well btw

Klaroline is eternal. Before any little barshipper was showing up, their was ONE WOMEN… WHO SEE THE GOOD IN KLAUS! This women come from Mystic Falls. Klaus was happy even Ansel told ihm that. (yeah thank you for cutting it out..) If the writers have Caroline Forbes getting the chance, they would be treated Klaus to be a better father. Camille thinking only on herself, she put themself in danger. So sorry for not sorry I believe until my last breath that Klaroline is endgame. No Hayley, No Cami, No Aurora, No person X … only Caroline.

Klaus & Caroline, always. I can’t stop having hope for them in the future. I really believe that Klaus will change in a good way because of his daughter and some day, he’ll be reunited with Caroline. I don’t see any other end for him.

Why do they keep bringing up Caroline and then complain about Klaroline fans? Just say it’s dead and that’s it. The showrunners and writers for TVD don’t even bring it up or rarely do, while TO people won’t STFU about it. I don’t even care about Klaroline but the people behind TO are so annoying. Hayley is in Klaus’ life because neither one of them has any choice. They aren’t soulmates and don’t belong together romantically. Klayley Never! Lol. All these Klayley people need to go see a therapist because they must have real abuse issues. She had him daggered in box and ran with another man with their child almost getting herself killed in one her most bone-headed moves. No one should trust her – that’s why Hayley is going to stay right where he can see her, lol. He listened to her and now he’s going to get kidnapped for listening to her stupid ideas. Cami is annoying now and her whole life and existence will now revolve around Klaus. They might as we kill her or let her leave town than to become Hayley 2.0. Thanks to all this shipping, the show could never be what it could be. It’s “Cami and Hayley in Charge”. Please just kill both Cami and Hayley and STFU about Klaroline.

Klamille is the best Klaus ship.I understand that Joseph doesn’t want to give too much away on Klamille because obviously he wants us to see how that plays out.

Their development is amazing and it’s the best relationship for many reasons(not just because they have Hope!).Even though Klaus never treated Hayley in the beginning like Caroline or Cami..he did’t draw her paintings or did other romantic stuff(come on it’s Klaus one or two sweets words and evey woman falls for him) she was THE ONE to treat him the best(example when she defended him on 1×21 “nothing true”)Some will say yeah but she tried to take Hope away from him.I don’t take her side or agree with what she did,but they both made bad decisions and if they had just TALKED everything would have been avoided.But now they trust each other and have deep respect which I think is more important than infatuations.She is the only woman capable of standing next to Klaus and even though they are the same they bring out the best in each other.She wants to make him better without changing him.Klaus always gives advice to Hayley or comforts her,so does she.Cami “sees” the light in Klaus like Caroline yet the first has called him a monster or a disappointment,betrayed his family and the second tried to kill him a million times with her friends…but i mean it’s ok Klaus has feelings for them..it’s the bad boy that only treats well to the good girl that tries to change him…If you like these relationships you don’t really care for Klaus because he’ll never be trully happy.

The only woman that matters to him and has brought about any real change in him – is Hope. Hayley is a total moron that should never be trusted and he’s going to get kidnapped for listening to her dumb advice and “doing things her way”. Hayley and Klaus have no choice but to be in each others lives – they have a child together. Hayley tried to erase Klaus and the Mikaelsons from Hope’s and her life FOREVER when Jackson gave her an ultimatum. She wasn’t giving a rats ass about any of them when she had an alternative but Haylijah or Klayley is true love – yeah right, lol. If Klaus really trusted her, he would let her leave town with Hope. Guess what – not gonna happen! He ain’t stupid. He knows she is incompetent. I wish they would shut the hell up about Klaroline if they are going to resent Klaroline fans 15 minutes later. Say it’s done and that’s it. End of story. Klamille is such a detriment to Cami’s character. She has no purpose without Klaus because of this shipping junk. Cami has no story of her own except to revolve around him and it’s sad to see that her own fans don’t even care and just want to see her jammed with Klaus. Same with Hayley. Hayley has nothing else to do except to sleep around and Klayley and Haylijah fans don’t give a damn. All this shipping crap needs to end, for real. Most people came to see the Originals not Klaus and Elijah being whiny crybabies whose only development is yearning for women (in Hayley case, she ain’t even worth a damn and will sleep with anyone) and going with their stupid plans.

Love all the Klaroline moments lately, looking forward to much much more. Klaus and Caroline have great chemistry and don’t even have to be in the same show or room to show it, this was proved with the Klaroline phone call in the TVD crossover 7-14

Of course, Klaroline is the better ship, I also love the elephat reference from Joseph, I wouldn’t be surprised if he had a secret KC account, he knows this fandom so well

Let’s say I found the slowly developing romance between Klaus and Camille the best of the series. Since the spoiler is widely spread Cami is going to die, I must look at other possibilities. Joseph says, or has to say, Klaus is too damaged to have a long lasting relationship with anybody, but I don’t agree. I believe every Jack has his Jill. Klaus should find his match in a pretty screwed up character like himself, being Aurora or Hayley. Since the last one is the mother of Hope, and this is The CW, I put my bet on Klayley as endgame.

Loved Joseph’s words about Klaroline and our fandom!We love him so much!Here For Klaroline Always And Forever ❤

Klaus and Caroline understood each other’s even they were enemies. Hate or love, they are the same. That’s what I love about them most.

And he has a child with Hayley. That’s make Klayley very important too

I’m all about Klamille. They are great together.

Wow Andy! Hats off to you for asking JM such a tough question considering how sensitive “shipper” issues can be. To his credit, I thought JM gave solid and accurate answers with regards to all the women and managed to recognize the positives of each “ship” without necessarily picking one. For sheer chemistry and entertainment value, I still prefer klaroline. That’s what I enjoy the most but he made valid points about all the “ships.”

I’m all about Klamille. They are great together. Cami isn’t going to die!

Caroline saw the good in Klaus before Cami ever did. Caroline: “I saw the good in Klaus.” She also found his humanity when no one else did. “Because you’re hurt which means there is a part of you that is human…because I’ve seen it.” When everyone wants to get rid of Klaus, Caroline constantly has to remind herself of all the horrible things he’d done so that she can remember to hate him, she forgets to hate him and finds herself caring about him too much. Klaus protects Caroline on instinct, “Stefan will be fine…I will ensure it” when 30 secs earlier he was yelling at Stefan to get out & threatened to kill him. But for Caroline, he saved Stefan. She constantly got his forgiveness without even trying to seek forgiveness. He might not be her love right now, but we can count on him being her last love. Because he literally intends to be.

It does never cease to amaze me how much klaus grew because of his love for Caroline. I actually thought he was completely unredeemable initially, especially after he killed Tyler’s mom. But somehow in that last third of TVD season 4, the gradual evolution of Klaus is what hooked me onto “klaroline”. He went from wanting to kill Tyler, to giving him a “head start,” to letting him come back to Mystic Falls because of Caroline. We saw it again when he gave up seeking vengeance on Katherine for Caroline in the 100th episode – and of course now again 2 years later- he goes from wanting to kill Stefan to saving his life at the drop of a hat- all for Caroline. If the writers want to end “klaroline”, they have to stop having Klaus do all these grand gestures that clearly show he’s still in love with her😄 He never has to tell Caroline she’s the most important. It’s so obvious just based on his actions. She is always the priority.

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