Preparations for the Walk have begun in Dubrovnik, スプリット, 分割 stands ready 

Reliable sources have informed us that the first costume fitting for the unsullied extras in Split will take place during next week, which means that shooting there is just around the corner. The juiciest bit of news from Croatia is connected to Dubrovnik, though.

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Here goes. We heard that HBO asked the Dubrovnik city council to allow filming of a scene in which a naked actress walks from the Dubrovnik cathedral to the Sponza Palace entrance (readers of course know who that is). The scene will require about 500 extras. As the map (courtesy of Sue) shows, the two locations are set at opposite ends of the old city’s main thoroughfare, Stradun.

Excited yet? I know I am. There are some great scenes from books four and five coming up next year.

With the history of accessibility of open shoots in Dubrovnik I wonder how they’re going to keep the public from snapping pictures of the scene. Although it’s some ways off from the Wall around Dubrovnik…

Looking forward to that scene! Impressed by how far they’re going to make it accurate–hope she doesn’t get cold!

Holy shit that is going to be such a profound/terrifying scene, idk if spoiler code is working so I’ll just say that actress, is very very brave

They haven’t filmed any scenes in Sponza Palace yet, right? They’ll walk right outside the similar Rector’s Palace, where Daenerys asked the Spice Merchant for ships.

Wow that means they’re really getting to the end of ADWD as far as the Kings Landing storyline is concerned. I’m ok with that as long as we will get some juicy incompent Cersei scenes in the first episodes. Given the lack of any Kettlebacks, I’m very curious how they will handle the Cersei-Margaery plot (I just don’t think Meryn Trant has it in him to seduce the young and the old Queen). With the walk scene confirmed, I’m also hopeful that we will finally get Ser Kevan back. Any news on that???

On the one hand I feel bad for Lena actually walking naked in public. However, putting her actually in the situation Cersei is in probably helps her as an actress.

Although it may not be her walking the whole way. I’m sure a body double will be doing some of this. I’m sure it will take both makeup and digital work to hide her tattoos and a body double will help out.

I love the clip of Lena talking about how her mother is excited to see her make this walk! Too funny.

Wow. Poor Lena, but this could potentially be a pretty cool scene. I agree with some of those above me who have wondered how they will keep the 500+ people from snapping photos, but for Lena’s sake I hope they have a pretty good plan in place. Looking forward to the entire Cersei arc in season 5. Keep up the good work HmR!

Why do you feel sorry for Lena? From interviews she is absolutely excited/revved up about doing that scene. She has awaited it from he very beginning

I don’t think the extras will manage to sneak cameras onto the set, but I also don’t think HBO can stop people from going up to windows, roofs etc.

Not related to this new but I’d love if we’d get a confirmation of Lady Waynwood and Lord Royce return. Especially Ayna Waynwood, I loved the actress playing her and we’re due to some politics at the Vale next season !

I wonder if they’ll shave her head/wig and give her a bald cap for the scene.

Holy shit that is going to be such a profound/terrifying scene, idk if spoiler code is working so I’ll just say that actress, is very very brave

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That’s true, and it could potentially be a fun experience for someone who has he badass attitude on life that Lena has, but I just find it hard to believe that walking in front of 500 strangers completely naked would be all too enjoyable.

Lena might win back to back Emmys if she wins this year as an underdog

I’m most excited about Cersei putting the proud facade when she begins the walk only to completely fall apart in tears. Will be a powerful moment indeed. As long as they don’t take away the moment in which she breaks. A very small part of me sees them making Cersei do the whole walk with her head held high but I’m more confident they’ll stay completely faithful to the source material with this one.

It would be awesome is they did this scene in one take without any cuts. Considering they have an entire street to film on it wouldn’t be impossible.

I assume there will be some pretty extensive use of a body double. Not only does Lena H have a bunch of tattoos, she’s also very 21st century thin. I always imagined one of the many facets of the shame that the Walk of Punishment inflicted on Cersei came from the fact that she’d gained a bit of weight (references to her dresses not fitting properly) so I imagine a “softer” body might be required.

Dreading/excited about this scene. But wow D&D are really moving fast.

You just show off, as someone who knows the stuff, don t you?

You re right, I told Sue yesterday that they HAVE to close the Walls for couple of hours because of this scene if they don t it would be madness.

As for Sponza palace I think they filmed there a couple of interior scenes – like Loras and Cersei talking at the window in the night scene. Also some extracts of Tyrion s and Sansa s wedding could have been filmed in there…I am not sure – we were not inside after all.

It would be awesome is they did this scene in one take without any cuts. Considering they have an entire street to film on it wouldn’t be impossible.

Damn, now you have me wishing hard as hell that this scene will be a sequence shot ! If it ever happens (which I doubt), it could become one of the greatest performances ever !

Given the lack of any Kettlebacks, I’m very curious how they will handle the Cersei-Margaery plot (I just don’t think Meryn Trant has it in him to seduce the young and the old Queen). With the walk scene confirmed, I’m also hopeful that we will finally get Ser Kevan back. Any news on that???

They’ve really removed Cersei’s ‘sleeping-with-people-to-get-what-she-wants’ side from the show, so I imagine they won’t bother with the Kettleblack seduction or any equivalent. More likely she’ll just secretly order or pay someone to kill the High Septon and then have them falsely confess to sleeping with Margaery. My money is on Olyvar. I can imagine him seducing and then smothering the High Septon, given he seduced Loras in season 3 to inform on the Tyrells for Baelish.

As for Kevan, I really hope they do bring him back, and Lancel too for that matter, given it’s the High Septon knowing about their affair that spurs Cersei to have him killed in the first place. A couple of years ago, I would’ve thought it was impossible to not have them back by now, but given the omissions of Coldhands, Lady Stoneheart, and now Arianne by the look of it, I wouldn’t be surprised if we never see them again either.

Also, I’m predicting that the show’s version of Meryn Trant will come to a ‘merciful’ end in season 6 outside of a theatre.

wow. you think they are planning one long take for the scene?

Like this, but with Cersei naked and 500 people throwing stuff and cursing her.

Well, I dont think the 100% PoV shot would work, but semi-PoV (behind her shoulder) for some moments of the walk could be awesome !

Yeah, I was more thinking have the camera behind her or in front of her. If they have just one steadicam they can move around as well. Throw in some somber music and badabing you have an Emmy award.

Awesome, I can’t wait to see this scene and I’m certain Lena will absolutely kill it.

Awesome! But I feel really scared for Lena, brave brave lady if she walks naked down a street with 500 people staring and shouting abuse at her. Even though it’s acting that would be impossibly tough for anyone.

Perhaps they should bring in Fukunaga to do another six minute single take tracking shot

Just kidding, that kind of directorial brilliance will probably not appear on GoT

As to Lena’s emmy chances, I wouldn’t get my hopes up. She was brilliant in season 2 and didn’t even get nominated IIRC. And now it’s a nude scene, I think a lot of the old prudes would never vote for her.

Wow! I was wondering if Lena would be up to this scene, can’t wait! ADWD material is coming fast

I’m surprised they’re filming this in the first week. I’m sure the actress is gonna be fantastic in this scene, it’s such a big moment but she has never failed before.

That’s a pretty logical theory, I haven’t even considered Olyvar but he could do the job. The fact that he is apparently not interested in women doesn’t mean anything here, because as you said he could just make false claims about seducing Margaery (like Kettleback did). I can also totally picture him being investigated by the High Sparrow and some septas (He is well enough known for the audience to care about).

Wether we’ll get Kevan or not will depend on how the show’s going to handle Varys and the Griffs I guess. He wouldn’t need much screentime though, he could just take over in episodes 8-9 and people could still get the feeling that this guy is actually making good for Cersei’s failures, only to be killed off by Varys in episode 10. It would be typical Thrones and a scene to brilliant to be taken away from the viewers.

Schrödinger’s Cat: They’ve really removed Cersei’s ‘sleeping-with-people-to-get-what-she-wants’ side from the show, so I imagine they won’t bother with the Kettleblack seduction or any equivalent. More likely she’ll just secretly order or pay someone to kill the High Septon and then have them falsely confess to sleeping with Margaery. My money is on Olyvar. I can imagine him seducing and then smothering the High Septon, given he seduced Loras in season 3 to inform on the Tyrells for Baelish.

As for Kevan, I really hope they do bring him back, and Lancel too for that matter, given it’s the High Septon knowing about their affair that spurs Cersei to have him killed in the first place. A couple of years ago, I would’ve thought it was impossible to not have them back by now, but given the omissions of Coldhands, Lady Stoneheart, and now Arianne by the look of it, I wouldn’t be surprised if we never see them again either.

Also, I’m predicting that the show’s version of Meryn Trant will come to a ‘merciful’ end in season 6 outside of a theatre.

Wait did I read this right? Are you suggesting that Olyvar will seduce the high septon? The chances of that happening are 0. The Hugh Septon is played by Jonathan Price for gods sake. He’s above doing sex scenes especially at his age.

I assumed he meant the outgoing High Septon, not Pryce’s High Sparrow

Hahaha I think he actually meant Margaery not the High Sparrow, though it would add something to the plot. Seriously aside from Pycelle we haven’t seen something similar on Thrones…

The current High Septon must be near as old as Pryce, so that’s off the table as well.

I do realise its HBO and everything but surely you can have a scene of the seduction, without it actually being a sex scene. To note though I don’t see this happening anyway, I think it more likely the High Septon will just die/be killed off screen

Turncloak: Wait did I read this right? Are you suggesting that Olyvar will seduce the high septon? The chances of that happening are 0. The Hugh Septon is played by Jonathan Price for gods sake. He’s above doing sex scenes especially at his age.

No, I meant the High Septon we have at the moment, given that him dying is what enables the High Sparrow to come into play. Sure I’m extrapolating that the current High Septon is secretly gay, but that’s hardly far-fetched.

Given Cersei’s suspicions in the book about Margaery and her cousins having wild orgies behind closed doors, and even that Loras might have been a part of that (thus mirroring Cersei and Jaime’s relationship), she could even get Olyvar to claim he had a threesome with Margaery and Loras, given that’s sort of half true, and that would help get Cersei out of marrying Loras as well.

The current High Septon must be near as old as Pryce, so that’s off the table as well.

Sex scenes can happen off-screen. If Daenerys and Daario can do it, so can a septon and a male prostitute.

There is no need to feel sorry for Lena Headey. The woman has been a professional actor for years and IIRC is absolutely ok with the scene. I’m sure she can handle the situation just fine. Also, 500 extras! Is that the highest number GOT every had in one scene?

I guess it’s possible. Using Olyvar to get rid of the High Septon and to seduce Margaery would in any case once again illuminate Cersei’s stupidity and carelessness and connect both crimes in a believable way.

Btw I don’t think Cersei needs much of an excuse to not marry Loras now that Tywin is dead.

Ahh I see. I thought you were talking about the High Sparrow and not the High Septon. However, in your arguments you are assuming that Cersei is a reliable narrator which I think she is not. Her accusations of Margaery came off as paranoia in my opinion. Especially after her descent into madness with her fathers death, Tyrions escape, the Maggy the frog business, her burning the tower of the hand, etc.

So I guess Season 5 will officially be both Dance with Dragons and Feast for Crows, but I don’t think the Greyjoys will fit in this season despite the fact it seems like an absolute necessity. Maybe next season?

This season is going to be an epic one for Lena. And she’s already so goddamned fantastic on this show.

Alright great, but I hope they do show her as a villain before this. Her character in the show is a lot more understandable, a lot of her actions are given to Joffrey. She needs to get really crazy, paranoid and evil before the High Septon captures her… I have my doubts they will do this to her in the show. I’m afraid they will portray her as a victim, paranoid after what has happened to her and nothing more.

If she is excited then great! I’m glad she is wanting to walk buck naked in front of 500 extras instead of a green screen with the people added in separately.

I’m not sure why she wanted a body double in season one showing a part of her butt if she is okay with this…but whatever.

However, in your arguments you are assuming that Cersei is a reliable narrator which I think she is not. Her accusations of Margaery came off as paranoia in my opinion. Especially after her descent into madness with her fathers death, Tyrions escape, the Maggy the frog business, her burning the tower of the hand, etc.

Oh, yeah, I don’t believe Cersei’s suspicions about Margaery are much more than paranoia either, nor would anyone watching the show, but it’s still something Cersei considers in the books, so it makes sense to use that in what she tells Olyvar to falsely confess to.

A few people believe some of ‘show’ Margaery’s lines hint that she is a lesbian or bisexual though.

For those who wonder : her tattoos aren’t a problem at all. You can cover that up with a bit of make-up :

Thats a legitimate concern. Cersei does plenty awful things and her punishment is more than deserving. Delivering common females to Qyborn to be used in experiments, ordering Osney Kettleblack on a mission to kill Jon Snow, sending Loras on a mission that she hopes will result in his death, setting up a false case against Margaery in the hopes that she will be beheaded, issuing a huge ransom for Tyrion’s death resulting in the death of innocent dwarves, etc. Cersei is not a Saint. Really hope they address these things. It’s possible to feel bad for Cersei and at the same time believe she deserves her punishment. Hope the writers room agrees with me.

fuelpagan: I’m not sure why she wanted a body double in season one showing a part of her butt if she is okay with this…but whatever.

Probably because that doesn’t exactly make an important, mind blowing scene, that has a chance to be remembered for decades..

I beg to differ. They weren’t punishing her for giving people to Qyburn or murdering babies. They were punishing her for having sex outside marriage. And what they did was disgusting, misogynistic and akin to sexual abuse. It would be like saying someone deserved to be raped for their crimes, or rather, someone who committed real crimes like murdering people, should get raped for the crime of sleeping around.

If they had convicted her for murder, torture etc. and executed her, I would have no problem with it and would consider it deserved.

If Lena is really going through with this with all those extras watching her she is quite possibly the bravest actor on earth.

Well, it was also for having the previous High Septon murdered, IIRC.

I agree. Cersei deserves to be punished for her crimes, not her sex life.

I agree, the punishment was horrible (although not shocking thinking this is a medieval world), but us as readers knew all that she did. All the unsullied viewers need to have the same knowledge. And than they can judge for themselves if they agree or not with the walk.

I’m quite surprised they are going to film Lena’s punishment walk in front of a huge crowd of extras. I would of expected them to shoot the naked part in private, then magically merge it in with the crowd afterwards.

I’m curious whether they focus on ‘villain’ Cersei, ‘paranoid’ Cersei or ‘stupid’ Cersei in the show. Killing the High Septon, dismissing the Iron Bank, reinstating the Faith Militant, and spending what money they have on a new fleet, which she then entrusts to someone who absconds with it, are all actions she takes which are integral to her downfall and the rising chaos in King’s Landing. But none of those actions are especially villainous necessarily, or paranoid exactly, just stupid. It’s important to show that she gets what’s coming to her, indirectly causes it in fact, not just because she’s horrible to others and going mad with suspicion, but because she’s nowhere near as smart as she thinks she is and is terrible at ruling compared with Tywin.

Note – when I say Cersei’s ‘downfall’, I don’t mean the punishment walk specifically, just the fact that she is removed from power, and rightly so.

This is exciting news… that I almost dread having to watch play out on screen.

Such a powerful and disturbing scene in the books .. I expect cast and crew will execute it well and make it equally as profound!

My hope is body doubles will not be used as much as some think. Tattoos can be covered up easily and I’m not sure her body shape matters in any way whatsoever… The scene will speak to audiences whether Lena is trim and slim or soft and curvy. So much of that scene will be body language and I think Lena is capable of delivering a body and soul wrenching performance that could easily be lessened by use of a body double…

CGI is very expansive and takes time. If all people involved are ok doing it “for real” they can save a lot of money and time that way.

If she is excited then great! I’m glad she is wanting to walk buck naked in front of 500 extras instead of a green screen with the people added in separately.

I’m not sure why she wanted a body double in season one showing a part of her butt if she is okay with this…but whatever.

I think they have held off on doing nude scenes for Cersei to make her walk that much more impactful.

Nothing is certain. I could see them using a body double for wide angle shots and shooting Lena’s closeups as you suggest.

I’m glad Lena is a sport about the whole thing. It’s going to be a powerful sequence for her. Similar to Tyrion’s face during Oberyn’s speech.

the real issue is whether they’ll have Lena go bald for the scene

Thumbs up to Lena, it takes some courage to walk naked in front of 500 and more people. But I was thinking, if Cersei gets taken down by the High Sparrow, who will be in charge of King’s Landing? Margeary is confined in a cell and they’ve made zero references to Kevan Lannister.

It all goes down to who will be Hand of the King. I guess it’ll probably be Mace. A rose in charge of King’s Landing!

I think they have it set up so that Cersei seems less stupid with her decisions in season 5. On the show, Casterly Rock’s gold mines have dried up. This gives her a credible reason to dismiss the Iron Bank and puts her in a desperate situation to reinstate the Faith militants to forgive the crowns debt. Now her decision to give Kings Landing a new fleet and hiring her “yes men” will be much harder to defend. They can remove the part in which Cersei buys a new fleet and give it to the Lyseni bastard with the surname of Waters(forget his name). Which I think they will do. I also think they will remove Cersei ordering the death of Lord Commandar Jon Snow which was stupid to begin with even for someone like Cersei. Also there are no Kettleblacks to send on that mission in the show.

I assume there will be some pretty extensive use of a body double. Not only does Lena H have a bunch of tattoos, she’s also very 21st century thin.

Um, with tattoos they just use makeup, and being thin has been common for every actress doing a nude scene on this show, so I doubt that would be a consideration.

I imagine it would be rather awkward to do this (certainly much more public than most nude scenes filmed for TV/movies are), but in terms of keeping people from taking photos, I don’t think that meaningfully affects Lena’s privacy or whatever. In a few months the entire planet can take HD images of the scene regardless.

Why is it an absolute necessity? In the show, I mean. Victarion’s mission is moot in the show; she already has a fleet that can take her whole army, the Meereenese Fleet. The Horns have not been introduced or particularly foreshadowed, and it seems the kind of thing they would cut from the adaptation. However, I’m pretty sure we will get some Greyjoy action in Westeros: Bryan Cogman DID say in an interview there will be consequences to Yara’s reputation as a result of her failed attack on the Dreadfort, so we’ll probably get some version of a Kingsmoot. Either she will fail (but to whom? It doesn’t seem they are casting more Greyjoys) or she will win and Yara will be the new Queen of the Iron Islands. And then she will be captured by Stannis. I don’t expect the Greyjoy storyline to expand any more than that, be it season 5 or 6.

Yeah, well, all that makes sense, but I don’t really want them to remove the foolishness from her actions and just make it into desperation, because that’ll make her look more like a victim once everything goes down… white-washing characters etc. etc.

They can make her look foolish and at the same time give her proper motivation. Let’s say she has proper motivation to not pay the iron bank(no money). She can go about deciding to not pay them in an indignant way by arrogantly dismissing them. I hope they take this route

Maybe if Bronn gets back from his apparent trip from Dorne in time, he could take up the Kettleblack role.

Somewhat OT: Carice van Houten just tweeted out a picture of a suit of armor and a shield emblazoned with a fiery heart along with the message “Guess where I am?”. Considering that Kit Harington mentioned at the Comic-Con panel that he starts filming on Monday with “a really great scene”, I think that we may be able to put 2 and 2 together here …

Unlikely. Jerome Flynn and Lena Headey hate each other. By the sound of it, they have to be physically kept apart during filming. I doubt they’d be able to do those scenes together without something going awry.

I’m really not looking forward to seeing this scene on the screen. It was the most disturbing and heart-wrenching moment in the books by far for me.

Where do people get this silly stuff from, honestly?

Could this scene be the Mance burning? Maybe the scene where Stannis sets off to war (since he’s using a shield). Anyway, that shield is awesome.

It does indeed appear to be Stannis’s attire/armor, although I can’t tell if Stephen Dillane is actually wearing it at the moment.

I know that they don’t shoot in chronological order, but my guess for the scene would be either Stannis offering to make Jon the Lord of Winterfell, or the conversation that Jon has with Melisandre that precedes that scene. The burning scene is definitely a possibility, considering that it takes place outdoors, but I’m less confident that particular business will make it into the show (the whole glamor thing strikes me as something that would be difficult to pull off onscreen).

Another great long take (which also stars Tobias Menzies and Nonso Anozie) done on a low budget. I believe this scene was done for £1 million and included 1000 extras.

Can’t wait to see how much they fuck up this scene.

They could just use a bald cap. I think Conleth Hill has been rocking one for Varys for years. Lena Headey could pull off bald if she wanted to go for it for real, though.

Even though the scene will be even harder for me to watch than it was to read–and reading it was no picnic–I think it’s going to be amazing. Go, Lena!

You must be so fun at parties. This is precisely the kind of powerful scene they tend to completely stick to, except for minor changes that make it even more powerful in places (i.e. Tyrion’s trial.) Whatever you think of the major cuts of whole storylines that are coming up, or the seamingly unexplainable changes they sometimes make, I don’t see how you can argue that they will probably fuck this scene up. It’s exactly the kind of thing they know how to adapt wonderfully.

MM: I think Conleth Hill has been rocking one for Varys for years.

Nope, Conleth Hill shaves his head for the role.

This has potential to be one of the most iconic scenes in the whole series. People are going to remember this and be talking about it for a very long time.

zod: Nope, Conleth Hill shaves his head for the role.

She is a pretty known actress, i doubt she would want to mess up other roles just so she can be bald on GOT. Also i’m glad the braindead morons who thought ending the season with her being imprisoned was a good idea were proven wrong , it was a terrible end to her AFFC arc, imo it should have ended with the walk and i think it was supposed to end that way but Martin or his editor decided it would be a good for some reason to cut two of her most important chapters and put in the next book, awful idea and glad they fixed that .

The cost of CGI depends on what you are doing. Something that is extremely complex and time consuming, which in this series would be a dragon or battle scene, is obviously very expensive. However, using CGI for more basic things can actually be cheaper than ‘real’ filming. Check out the recent CGI reel for GOT, where you see things like the Bloody Gate were completely computer generated. For something like Cersei’s walk, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was cheaper to film it in the way I suggested – though I imagine respect for Lena Headey would of come first!

Of course, there is something to be said about an overuse of CGI detracting from the actors performances, and removing a sense of realism. If Lena is really prepared to shoot the scene in public, then this scene could be perfect.

I have high hopes for this scene and hope they do it right. The nudity should absolutely not be depicted as sexy.

Also, putting it in digitally would not be anywhere near as impactful. If Lena feels uncomfortable and vulnerable the scene will be that much more powerful. Actors ok with feeling that way sometimes. It’s part of the craft.

probably because like a lot of the fandom they probably think that cersei deserves the walk because of the evil things she’s done. hell i wouldn’t be surprised at all if they make this scene all about her getting her comeuppance for having people tortured by qyburn. the walk of shame is a powerful scene in the book because its the point where cersei realizes that she can no longer use her sexuality to achieve her goals. its similar to jaime getting his hand cut off. the cersei before the walk of shame and after are two different people in the sense that after the walk cersei has lost a major part of her IDENTITY.

considering they haven’t focused on cersei using sex as a bribe and they’re havent been any casting announcements for kettleblacks or lancel coming back, it wont have the same effect and its a huge fuck up imo.

hell i’ll be surprised if they even film this scen from her POV. D&D are pure trash. after how they changed the sept scene into a rape, i dont understand how anyone can have hopes of them doing any complex cersei scene justice

I think you greatly misunderstood the point of Cersei’s walk of shame if you think it’s just about Cersei’s loss of sexual control

i realize that its also about her losing her power and her public image of the “beautiful golden queen” being stripped away from her. but it was a punishment given to her because of adultery and sleeping with other men after robert’s death. if the D&D decide to change that (which it seems like they 99% will) then fuck this scene tbh

Lena’s talked about this scene before:

As for how she expects the Penance Walk will be handled, Headey said she thinks it will be staged in typically “raw” fashion.

“I think, you know, it’s interesting, that part for me. I’ve been very adamant about keeping her kind of clothed because I think that’s part of her power. And she can still be sort of sexual and weird and female, but she doesn’t have to be naked. And I think it makes for a more shocking disempowering moment when this happens. So, we’ll see. I’m a little scared.”

it’s nice to see that Lena gets it even though those hacks D&D probably don’t

And GRRM is a fat fuck, see, i can make insults too, doesn’t mean what i’m doing is being mature .

-changing a consensual sex scene into a rape -taking away Catelyn’s agency to make Robb a bigger character

-killing off Shae in a way that make us feel sorry for Tyrion

-cutting Arianne and making Trystane the heir of Dorne

-added sexual violence against women from the books

and the examples just go on and on…….make them gutter trash in my eyes

Lena Headey’s hair is very short right now. I imagine it won’t be hard for them to use a bald cap. Unless she wants them to really shave it. I imagine it wouldn’t take but a few months for it to grow back to it’s current length.

I’m, not saying that all of your points aren’t comprehensible (some of them are total bullshit imo), but if you find so many things in the show that you hate, just stop watching, it is as simple as that.

I could ask the same to you. Hacks? Gutter trash? Grow up, Linda.

Sansa will be sexualized in the Winds of Winter. That’s most likely the controversial Sansa scene that GRRM held back for 2 books. My money is that she will start sleeping with Littlefinger. Cersei’s influence has taught her well

You kinda undermine your own arguments when you throw around insults like “gutter trash”. Why so hostile?

just channeling my inner cersei since this post is about her

please do not associate with that stupid bitch who thinks that robert didn’t rape cersei and that dorne is white

Also, GRRM sexualized the hell out of Arya in his TWOW sample chapter. Had her fiercely making out with Raff the sweetling. That’s much more disturbing than the show putting Sansa in Sith clothing

probably because like a lot of the fandom they probably think that cersei deserves the walk because of the evil things she’s done. hell i wouldn’t be surprised at all if they make this scene all about her getting her comeuppance for having people tortured by qyburn.

That is an inordinate amount of assumptions about a wide swath of the Game of Thrones fandom. I completely disagree with your logic. Benioff and Weiss have written Cersei as a complex, thoroughly human character worthy of our sympathy despite her actions, and Lena Headey’s tremendous performance have given the character a great deal of depth. Suggesting that they will use the moment to condemn her and ridicule beyond the intention of the scene as Martin originally wrote it is, in

hell i’ll be surprised if they even film this scen from her POV. D&D are pure trash. after how they changed the sept scene into a rape, i dont understand how anyone can have hopes of them doing any complex cersei scene justice

It would be hard for me to disagree with every word you’ve written here more strongly than I do. I think the scene will be filmed from Cersei’s point of view. I think that Benioff and Weiss are strong writers handling an extremely difficult task. Despite the backlash, I had no problem with how the sept scene was handled, and I have every confidence that Benioff and Weiss, the director, and Headey will pull Cersei’s Walk of Shame off brilliantly.

I don’t care how passionate or genuine your anger is – calling Benioff and Weiss “gutter trash” weakens your argument immensely. Most people here who have issues with the way that show is being handled are able to express their opinions without those opinions devolving into indiscriminate insults. By punctuating your criticisms with petulant name-calling and reductive logic, you reduce your own credibility and the chances that people here are going to listen to anything that you have to say.

You can see the line in some still photos. Definitely a bald cap.

Its exciting to see they will be moving through Feast and Dance at this pace. If they are planning on wrapping the story up in 7 or possibly 8 seasons it would surely be important to have a good 20 to 30 episodes to move towards and then produce the endgame so Im all for them getting through Feast and Dance in this next season.

you really had no problem with how the sept scene was handled??? REALLY?? it was flat out rape, took away Cersei’s agency and ruined Jaime’s character. then that moron Alex Graves had the nerve to say “it became consensual by the end”.

anyways i disagree with you about D&D being strong writers (Bran in Craster’s Keep, Robb and Talisa, the sept scene, Tyrion’s scenes in season 4 finale, Dany in season 2 and more) strongly prove otherwise.

lmao why does me calling them “gutter trash” reduce my credibility. it’s my opinion and i’m allowed to voice it.

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