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Where do あなた draw the line between respecting gender / sexuality identities and saying they're ridiculous?

i.e. I'm nonbinary, and that's obv pretty legit in my eyes. People don't have to operate within a gender binary. But what about, say, otherkin, people who identify as not fully human? I really don't believe in otherkin because unlike the gender binary we aren't on a spectrum of human to スーパーナチュラル または whatever. But on the flip side people use the same arguments against trans/nb folks as I've used against otherkin, like saying "you're genetically female/human so you're a girl/human." My フレンズ have called me out for not "believing" in otherkin. What are your thoughts?

The same kind of goes for sexuality, like where's the line between respecting kinks and saying something is wrong? What do あなた think about people who are sexually または romantically attracted to objects, for instance?
 tamore posted 1年以上前
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Cinders said:
Truth is subjective. People disagree with me on this frequently. "It can't be," they say. "Truth is objective fact, it just is." That may be true of certain physical and stationary things in life. Objective truths exist, to be sure. I never 発言しました there isn't.

But personal truth, that is entirely subjective. The Wiccans say, An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will and while I am not Wiccan, I do feel those are good words to live by.

I don't care how others identify. They can believe in past lives, または an after life, または a Savior, または polytheism, または animal spirits. They can choose to label their sexuality, または they can not. Because they are what they claim because they believe that they are, whatever that is. It's their subjective truth because it's true to them. It doesn't have to be true to me. I respect that, I take it at face value, and I believe that they believe it. It's the best I can do.

So to answer the question, I never call anything ridiculous, for that is also subjective. I knew a Shinto Catholic lesbian who had a passion for J.R.R. Tolkein and (when she was younger) believed hobbits were real. It made no sense to me, but it didn't have to. It made sense to her, and that's all that matters.

The world is already full of skepticism, cynicism, and objective truth. No need to add any もっと見る into it, in my opinion.
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posted 1年以上前 
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Gotcha, I like this answer a lot. Thanks man
tamore posted 1年以上前
zanhar1 said:
I believe in most but I think otherkin is a bit of a stretch. Likewise the ones who think they're like ネコ born as humans. I'm not gonna throw hate around または judge but I really don't get it.

Edit: After 読書 the other コメント I can definitely see it much better. I personally don't believe in reincarnation but I understand why some people do. I think my misunderstanding had lie in the fact that I thought it was like a gender of some sort which didn't make sense to me. However I can see someone believing that they have the soul of an animal living with in them. As 発言しました in the 回答 below, some of the beliefs are a bit of a stretch to me, but I still hold my 'to each their own' mentality. If it doesn't hurt anyone then it isn't a problem. And again (as stated in one of the below answers) it may not make sense to me but if it makes sense to them then that's what counts.

I myself hold some 'odd' beliefs that some people would probably 質問 me for. So I really can't place judgement on otherkins.
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posted 1年以上前 
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Right, I just feel like I need a way to think it through logically lmao
tamore posted 1年以上前
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Same, like I can see trans and nobinary and stuff. I guess I can sort of see otherkin to an extent (like the ones who think they are witches) because I do believe in magic and psychics and such but when they start going 'I'm really a dragon/mermaid/griffin' I'm a bit thrown off. Like witches, elves, and 妖精 I can see. But getting into the vampire/werewolf territory (as I don't believe those exist period) I start to question. It's one thing to say あなた are a male of female (as males and females obviously exist) but another to say that you're a being that is of only ファンタジー if that makes sense.
zanhar1 posted 1年以上前
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To be honest I really don't know how to put what I'm think into words; like I have the thought formed in my head but I can't figure out how to explain it. Perhaps it's centered on my beliefs; like I believe that witches are real and that people can practice magic (or something like it) but I don't believe in vampires. Like the closer it is to something あなた read in a ファンタジー novel the もっと見る far-fetched it seems to me personally. Is Cullenism the vampire religion あなた have in mind? All that 発言しました I don't think otherkin is less legit, if it's real to the person then that's what matters, it doesn't hurt me. I guess what I'm trying to say is; によって far-fetched I mean harder for me to ラップ my head around. I won't dismiss it as 'not real' though.
zanhar1 posted 1年以上前
bri-marie said:
Otherkin don't have anything to do with gender または sexuality (link is a nifty chart made によって otherkin to help you). While there is a lot of overlap between the two (what あなた feel on the inside doesn't match the outside) they aren't the same. Otherkin falls very heavily into reincarnation, and that idea has been around too long (and found in too many cultures) for me to just dismiss it outright.

As for where I draw the line -- so long as the ID doesn't harm anyone, and everything done is consensual, I really don't give it much thought.

Edit: added link
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See that makes もっと見る sense now. Like that actually really did help a lot.
zanhar1 posted 1年以上前
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