Surprisingly few have heard about Fluffy and many of those who have, are confused with all the 本 and the sequel and stuff. Here's the story digging into facts of the timeline and looks, as well as the official words によって the film's makers.
I originally created this 記事 to The Lion King Wiki as SuperBabySimba, but as Wikis can be edited によって anyone who is confused and prefers daydreams over facts, I chose to post this original version here to help those who are interested. :)
FLUFFY'S STORY
"Let's just end on the 次 generation. Here's Fluffy, Simba and Nala's new little cub. Let's just end on Fluffy."
—The Lion King film makers, on the 1995 commentary track of the film, refering to the cub at the end.
Fluffy is what the cub at the end of The Lion King film was officially called until later 与えられた the identity of Kiara in the official storyline.
Appearance
Fluffy looks a lot like its father Simba did as a baby. It has very similar facial features, golden brown fur, paler toes, and big, black pupils without irises. But couple of noticable differences can be found: it has black ear rings whereas Simba didn't and it doesn't have フルーツ ジュース 'paint' on its forehead unlike Simba did.
Information
After The Lion King
After the release of the film in June 1994, the cub became very 人気 object of speculation as for who it is. The film's content itself doesn't say anything about the cub apart from its outside appearence. No name または gender is given. Because of the look-alike appearence to Simba and how no female had been seen with a golden brown fur, many believed it to be a boy and many still refuse to believe it's not. Even the ear rings make some absolutely certain that it's a boy, even though Simba as a baby didn't have them and Simba's mother Sarabi does have them. And even though the フルーツ ジュース paint was an essential part of Simba's blessing ceremony in the beginning, the lack of it at the point where the only known baby boy had it, implies that it might be a girl after all - especially when combined to the fact about the ear ring matter.
The original デザイン making its gender unclear and many believing it to be a boy, resulted in some outsider writers creating childrens' 本 wherein it was visioned as a son. And as no official sequel to the film was in plans, Disney's book apartment approved them, forming a semi-official book universe out of a collection of profit fanfiction stories that contradict each others. In 1994, few months after the film, was published book series The Lion King: Six New Adventures, which became the most 人気 but remained quite unknown as it was released only in USA. In it, Simba and Nala have a son named Kopa.
In 1995 the film's creators released a commentary track for the Laserdisc release of the film, wherein they called the cub "Fluffy" and didn't refer to it either a 'he' または 'she' - even though Kopa was in Disney's copyrights and there would've been no harm done によって turning the cub into him. によって Fluffy, they made clear they didn't want Kopa to be the cub in the film, that in the official story the cub would remain without a gender または real name.
Soon enough Disney's film makers started to create an official sequel film, but the crew was all different from those who created the canon film. A rumour has it that the sequel's creators were planning to write two cubs, a boy named Chaka and a girl who had several name options, but cut the boy out in early production and developed the story only with the girl. In 1998, The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride film was released and Fluffy had finally gotten an official gender and name: a girl Kiara.
After The Lion King II: Simba's Pride
But as Kiara's デザイン and the ceremony are obviously different from the first film's version, it has caused confusion among ファン - especially those who know about Kopa in the books. There are a few ファン theories to connect Kopa into the story, of which the most 人気 is that Zira killed Kopa before the film's beginning despite of the fact that a loss of an earlier child doesn't make sense to about a twenty facts in the film's story.
In the film's official trailer they used Fluffy for Kiara's presentation, instead of their redesigned version. They needed to connect Fluffy into an official SP material but in the actual film they wanted to redesign it, so the solution was to make the point in the trailer. And yes, even if the trailer was made によって the marketting people, The Walt ディズニー Company does see this trailer as official as it has the word "Disney's" on it and it was released on an official ディズニー VHS.
And those who correctly do their math on the character timelines the two films combined provide, find out that it doesn't even leave room for any older siblings to Kiara, the very least for Kopa: Kopa from the 本 and Zira's son Kovu from the sequel film look the same age (and thus would become the same age if stuffed into the same story) yet Kovu was born before Simba even met Nala, and Fluffy could not have been born before in the least 3 months later. This could have Kovu and Fluffy look the same age. Which Kovu and Kiara do. If there was another cub before Kiara, carried while Kovu growing up and then growing up alongside Kovu, then Kiara carried and growing up for months...Kovu would look much older than Kiara. There is no room for anyone between Kovu and Kiara's births. Especially not someone as old as Kopa.
Why they remade the cub's ceremony scene is unknown. Why they redesigned the cub is unknown but likely they wanted it to look もっと見る obviously female, または just less like Simba as in もっと見る personal and individual appearence instead of a clone of her father. Whatever the motive, the act is retroactive continuity that is very common in works of fictional series.
One essential thing remains common between Fluffy and Kiara and the ceremony scenes: neither have the フルーツ ジュース paint on them when Rafiki holds them up for the kingdom to see. Kiara gets the paint after Rafiki takes her down. Thus, the continuity doesn't completely lack and Kiara and Fluffy blend into one on a practical level in the films too.
Simba's Pride's makers have officially confirmed that in their story Fluffy is Kiara. In link official interview they say "It starts off where the first film left us with a twist - あなた think it's a king but it's a queen!" And remark also that he says that we THINK it's a boy, not that it actually was in the film itself. But the point is, one of the animators have confirmed that in their story Kiara IS the cub at the end of the first film.
Fluffy is Kiara in the entity of the movie universe, which forms the official story of The Lion King, while the first film's commentary track proves Fluffy never was even supposed to be officially anyone until Kiara.
Fluffy = Simba and Nala's first child because its creators 発言しました so.
Fluffy = genderless Fluffy in its own film's story alone. Thus turns into any fan's original character.
Fluffy = a boy in the book universe alone. As the book universe stories contradict each others, Kopa isn't even the only version of Fluffy in the book universe.
Fluffy = girl Kiara in the entity of the official story that is the one formed によって the two films.
I originally created this 記事 to The Lion King Wiki as SuperBabySimba, but as Wikis can be edited によって anyone who is confused and prefers daydreams over facts, I chose to post this original version here to help those who are interested. :)
FLUFFY'S STORY
"Let's just end on the 次 generation. Here's Fluffy, Simba and Nala's new little cub. Let's just end on Fluffy."
—The Lion King film makers, on the 1995 commentary track of the film, refering to the cub at the end.
Fluffy is what the cub at the end of The Lion King film was officially called until later 与えられた the identity of Kiara in the official storyline.
Appearance
Fluffy looks a lot like its father Simba did as a baby. It has very similar facial features, golden brown fur, paler toes, and big, black pupils without irises. But couple of noticable differences can be found: it has black ear rings whereas Simba didn't and it doesn't have フルーツ ジュース 'paint' on its forehead unlike Simba did.
Information
After The Lion King
After the release of the film in June 1994, the cub became very 人気 object of speculation as for who it is. The film's content itself doesn't say anything about the cub apart from its outside appearence. No name または gender is given. Because of the look-alike appearence to Simba and how no female had been seen with a golden brown fur, many believed it to be a boy and many still refuse to believe it's not. Even the ear rings make some absolutely certain that it's a boy, even though Simba as a baby didn't have them and Simba's mother Sarabi does have them. And even though the フルーツ ジュース paint was an essential part of Simba's blessing ceremony in the beginning, the lack of it at the point where the only known baby boy had it, implies that it might be a girl after all - especially when combined to the fact about the ear ring matter.
The original デザイン making its gender unclear and many believing it to be a boy, resulted in some outsider writers creating childrens' 本 wherein it was visioned as a son. And as no official sequel to the film was in plans, Disney's book apartment approved them, forming a semi-official book universe out of a collection of profit fanfiction stories that contradict each others. In 1994, few months after the film, was published book series The Lion King: Six New Adventures, which became the most 人気 but remained quite unknown as it was released only in USA. In it, Simba and Nala have a son named Kopa.
In 1995 the film's creators released a commentary track for the Laserdisc release of the film, wherein they called the cub "Fluffy" and didn't refer to it either a 'he' または 'she' - even though Kopa was in Disney's copyrights and there would've been no harm done によって turning the cub into him. によって Fluffy, they made clear they didn't want Kopa to be the cub in the film, that in the official story the cub would remain without a gender または real name.
Soon enough Disney's film makers started to create an official sequel film, but the crew was all different from those who created the canon film. A rumour has it that the sequel's creators were planning to write two cubs, a boy named Chaka and a girl who had several name options, but cut the boy out in early production and developed the story only with the girl. In 1998, The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride film was released and Fluffy had finally gotten an official gender and name: a girl Kiara.
After The Lion King II: Simba's Pride
But as Kiara's デザイン and the ceremony are obviously different from the first film's version, it has caused confusion among ファン - especially those who know about Kopa in the books. There are a few ファン theories to connect Kopa into the story, of which the most 人気 is that Zira killed Kopa before the film's beginning despite of the fact that a loss of an earlier child doesn't make sense to about a twenty facts in the film's story.
In the film's official trailer they used Fluffy for Kiara's presentation, instead of their redesigned version. They needed to connect Fluffy into an official SP material but in the actual film they wanted to redesign it, so the solution was to make the point in the trailer. And yes, even if the trailer was made によって the marketting people, The Walt ディズニー Company does see this trailer as official as it has the word "Disney's" on it and it was released on an official ディズニー VHS.
And those who correctly do their math on the character timelines the two films combined provide, find out that it doesn't even leave room for any older siblings to Kiara, the very least for Kopa: Kopa from the 本 and Zira's son Kovu from the sequel film look the same age (and thus would become the same age if stuffed into the same story) yet Kovu was born before Simba even met Nala, and Fluffy could not have been born before in the least 3 months later. This could have Kovu and Fluffy look the same age. Which Kovu and Kiara do. If there was another cub before Kiara, carried while Kovu growing up and then growing up alongside Kovu, then Kiara carried and growing up for months...Kovu would look much older than Kiara. There is no room for anyone between Kovu and Kiara's births. Especially not someone as old as Kopa.
Why they remade the cub's ceremony scene is unknown. Why they redesigned the cub is unknown but likely they wanted it to look もっと見る obviously female, または just less like Simba as in もっと見る personal and individual appearence instead of a clone of her father. Whatever the motive, the act is retroactive continuity that is very common in works of fictional series.
One essential thing remains common between Fluffy and Kiara and the ceremony scenes: neither have the フルーツ ジュース paint on them when Rafiki holds them up for the kingdom to see. Kiara gets the paint after Rafiki takes her down. Thus, the continuity doesn't completely lack and Kiara and Fluffy blend into one on a practical level in the films too.
Simba's Pride's makers have officially confirmed that in their story Fluffy is Kiara. In link official interview they say "It starts off where the first film left us with a twist - あなた think it's a king but it's a queen!" And remark also that he says that we THINK it's a boy, not that it actually was in the film itself. But the point is, one of the animators have confirmed that in their story Kiara IS the cub at the end of the first film.
Fluffy is Kiara in the entity of the movie universe, which forms the official story of The Lion King, while the first film's commentary track proves Fluffy never was even supposed to be officially anyone until Kiara.
Fluffy = Simba and Nala's first child because its creators 発言しました so.
Fluffy = genderless Fluffy in its own film's story alone. Thus turns into any fan's original character.
Fluffy = a boy in the book universe alone. As the book universe stories contradict each others, Kopa isn't even the only version of Fluffy in the book universe.
Fluffy = girl Kiara in the entity of the official story that is the one formed によって the two films.
I would LOVE to read a fanfic about Kopa where Kopa is Kiara's little brother born after the movie's events, which is the only way he could realistically be connected into Kiara's film. I mean, even though Fluffy's makers say Fluffy is Simba and Nala's first child, the film itself doesn't say that. So basing on the tier 1 canon alone, and combined to SP film, it could be Kopa but only if born after SP's events.
I mean, I don't recall the books saying Kopa was their first child either?
And thank you agai. I'm glad you like my articles. ^^
I watched the first 2 TLK movies hundreds of times when I was a kid. I thought I knew the Lion King universe like the back of my hand until I started getting involved with the online community. (I live in England so I missed out on the 6 New Adventures, and until I had broadband I hadn't a clue about the amount of online fan theories people had been coming up with.) Things got very confusing very quickly, and I found it very difficult to identify what was considered canon and which information was purely a fan theory.
So thanks very much for sharing this article, it's very interesting and I'm glad I read it!
1 - Love the first movie.
2 - Love the second movie equally.
3 - Despise the third movie.
4 - Love the SNA books.
5 - Support the internet theories.
If you don't, you'll get ignored, called a troll or even banned. What happened to actual discussions?
I don't know how many TLK discussion forums have this issue, but I created a forum where the issue does not exist. A forum for those who like to seperate the book universe from the film universe just like Disney meant it.
On this forum, you may or may not like the sequel films, and you may or may not be a fan of the books and their characters, and everyone are welcome to discuss everything The Lion King as well as their fan visions and personal canons--but we separate the official canon from fanfiction.
LillyGrey18, I think you might find this forum enjoyable to be part of. Check out the rules and infos and feel free to join if you feel like it. :)
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By the way, I read your following posts:
The Lion King Characters That Just Aren't There (link)
Does Simba's Pride really have plot holes? (link)
After reading all of them, I can say that I know much more about the movie than I did before. I would also like to say that you have an amazing fan integrity. You pointed out every single detail that has been buzzing my mind for quite a time regarding the movie universe's official, or much less, unofficial story lines, its plot holes, and even, as you call it, "not specifically explained situation", (e.g. Kopa and Kiara's connection, Kovu's identity, and even the origins of the Outlanders).
I also agree with glelsey on one of her previous comments. I grew up watching Disney movies but had never known TLK movies as much as this, not especially after reading three of your posts. Thanks for sharing your point of views on all of us. Hope to read more of them in the future, if time permits.
thank you so much! It's great to know my efforts are still appreciated and helpful.
Your feedback was especially encouraging! :)
when i look over the comments i made in time, i think back and wonder: how many confused LK fans are right now in the situation i was in then?..anyway, i don t know how many people would keep spending their time trying to convince with facts, not with fiction, in spite of other fans' judgement or disrespect. thumbs up!
thank you. :) And I'm glad you came around in the matter.
I've come across a few who keep reasoning with facts, although I may be the only one who wrote articles like this about or related to the matter. (In order to keep it nice and clear, for discussion debates often get heated and confusing.) But I haven't for a long, long time anymore, as I think I've written all I have to say about it. :)
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