posted by bendaimmortal
I know the vast majority of people seem to have taken a liking of the first impression the book gives on the father-son relationship, especially によって Junior's own words, so I respect that view - however those are only his beliefs and not necessarely the truth and I personally like to dig deeper into the possibilities. And I know the vast majority of people seem to think he's a a sick, evil person. Well, he DOES do a lot of sick and unthinkable things in his time, so I can definitely see where that opinion comes from, but personally I don't think it makes him downright evil または sick from the start.
I personally see it very differently.
I do believe my interpretation is very well logic to the canon even though very different from the majority of the interpretations of other ファン - though my Barty Jr.'s story does get a little Alternate Universe from the end of Goblet of 火災, 火 book, because I do not write him having the Dementor's キッス but create something もっと見る for, and about him, for a short time to come until I have him dead later that year.
HIS HOGWART'S HOUSE
My version is not a Slyherin but a Gryffindor with many Slytherin characteristics, and some Ravenclaw. A Gryffindor is unlikely, maybe, but still possible. It's only the essence of the person that sorts them into a certain House - it has nothing to do with the depth of the character.
Harry could've strongly belonged into Slytherin - it was a difficult choice for the Hat even between such "opposites" of Houses, so the line between which house a person belongs to, can be very thin, and maybe blurry, and so the crucial element is, what the child's values weight on and how genuine they are, at the time.
"Do あなた know why I sorted あなた into Gryffindor?" "Because I asked it."
Junior had ambition in him, but it may not have been as great as his father's, and in my view, he really didn't care for his own much, because his father's ambition was making him unhappy. Until his teenage years pushed him into もっと見る genuinely living によって some of his Slytherin/non-gryffindor characteristics than he had before. But if and when ambition had a role in his future choices before Azkaban, it was not that genuine and so the Sorting Hat didn't regard his ambition much. And when he was sane and emotionally relatively healthy, he didn’t seem to pull all the shit he did, without regret. I think I mention later, that in my view, Junior was rather unstable, which made the choice for the Hat even harder.
The book doesn't tell what the child Junior was like, and people can change very essentially if life is a 雌犬 enough または if they just feel like it is - but certainly he might have changed a lot in Azkaban. As in, the Slytherin characteristics take over his essence, as his ハート, 心 and mind grew horribly twisted and hurt.
Gryffindor: courage, boldness, daring, loyalty. Slytherin: ambition, cunning, resourcefulness. Ravenclaw: intelligence, knowledge and wit. All of those and もっと見る I could see in the young Barty Junior. He doesn't need to have all the Gryffindor characteristics to belong into the House, and valuing courage, boldness, daring and loyalty does not label him good または bad. But he wasn't a true Gryffindor in the way certain others were.
So, as for my Junior's case with the Death Eater path choice, I’d like to quote a song: "This is where I lose myself, when I keep running away from you. This is who I am when, when I don't know myself anymore. Breathe your life into me - I can feel you. I'm falling, falling faster. Breathe your life into me - I still need you. I'm falling. And this is how it looks when I am standing on the edge. This is how I break apart when I finally hit the ground. And this is how it hurts when I pretend I don't feel any pain.
And this is how I disappear, when I throw myself away."
I assume he was likely in the author's intent a Ravenclaw または a Slytherin. But as said, anything's possible because she didn't let us know anything about what he was like または held in value when he was a child, and she did write emotionally and mentally deeply affective events happen to him at young age.
THE LONGBOTTOM TORTURE
Nobody seems to care that Jo PUT WEIGHT in her writing, on how Junior may NOT have been involved in the Longbottom torture while NOT confirming at ANY point that he was guilty of it. Why shouldn't that be significant?
Don't あなた think she likely meant something によって the way she put that part of Junior's story? If she really meant him to have part in the Longbottom torture so simply and cruelly - I'd suppose she'd weighted on such image, instead of the opposite. And it's not the first time in the history that even innocent people get imprisoned while evidence speaks loudly enough against them.
But because Junior was a Death Eater for sure back then, and thus certainly had it in him to cast some unforgivable curses and was somewhat cruel - I personally chose the middle road; that he did take part in the torture but not entirely out of his own free will.
As for the evidence of Junior's participation the characters talk about? Dumbledore mentions that he doesn't know whether または not Junior really was guilty, that he may have just been in the wrong place at the wrong time. This makes it sound like Barty Sr. sentenced his child on minimum evidence. But let's take note of that Dumbledore didn't work at the Ministry and certainly not at the Law Enforment, so he may not have known all the evidence there had been. Also, I can't see Barty Sr. sending his own son to Azkaban with a label of a torturer on his forehead if there had been even the slightest chance to clear the boy's and through that his own reputation. The evidence must have been undeniable enough for him to get so extremely furious and choosing to pass the sentence on him. The man seemed too ambitious to pass such sentence on minimum または too little evidence, instead of fighting for his name's honor. So, Junior may have really been innocent but somehow the evidence spoke enough against it, または he was guilty and the father's shock and fury took over before he could investigate all essential information on the events - in either case leaving Junior little chance to convince him of his innocence または 'innocence'. Believe me, this makes sense. I'm gonna write this in detail into a fanfic.
His emotion in the book's version of the trial must have been genuine and not an act - because he didn't choose to wait for Voldemort または harbour revenge on his father but he wanted to DIE and even within a year, and he was dying, indeed. As in - doesn't seem like a cold-blooded torturer-murderer-Voldemort-devoted-fannatic to me.
So, though the book does not 確認 this but only says that he was there when the Aurors came in - in my view he really did take part in the torture of the Longbottoms. But not as if he really wanted to. Bellatrix Lestrange who was extremely loyal to and fanatic about Voldemort, または any of the Lestranges, just happened to ask him to 登録する them in the torture while it's obvious that a truly loyal Death Eater would do anything for Voldemort - especially in such situation as Voldemort having disappeared - and at least Bellatrix was a psychopath. So what other choice did Junior have but to agree to take part in the crime. As for how he was able to actually do it? The Lestranges most likely talked about Voldemort in a glorifying and praising way and about how he would reward them if they found him - and in the deepest Junior was looking for acceptance from Voldemort and had probably had もっと見る of it - (pretended または genuine, who knows) - than he felt he'd had from his father and in the light of that and his bitterness, he might have very well ended up wanting to find Voldemort again, so bad that he'd be able to cast the Unforgivable Curse and got carried away. Though, I don’t think he wanted to go on with it for that long. I believe Bellatrix kept them there until it was too late.
I theorize something もっと見る for the Longbottom torture in the "His devotion as a Death Eater" subsection.
But his choices, from becoming a Death Eater in the first place to everything else he did before he got caught, were not so much hate driven but もっと見る out of desperation and youthful foolishness, combined to Voldemort being exceptionally good in manipulating people.
In my vision the trial happened like in the book. And he behaved so because
he still held on to some hope when it came to his father. Regardless of anything they may have had または missed in the past - his pleading oozed the attitude 'but-I'm-your-son-you're-my-daddy-you-don't-really-want-to-do-this-to-me' - and even もっと見る so as he turned to his mother, pleading her to make the father see that. Mothers usually have an unconditionally genuine love-bond to their children and sometimes end up reminding fathers that they do too. That is what I think Junior was counting on at that point. He was not innocent at all,
but he held on to a hope which is the 'when 愛 is blood, you're never on trial'.
(Personally I don't think it has to be a blood tie, just 愛 as strong as that. Generally spoken, of course.) This trial was the first time we met Junior. We knew nothing about him before that. and so to me the first impression was that. Besides, as already said, the fact that he was dying in Azkaban within a year, is a reason to believe his emotion and distress in the trial was genuine and related to his 愛 for his parents.
HIS FATHER'S LOVE
And his father did 愛 him, unconditionally. Thus being betrayed によって his son in such a way naturally hurt extremely much, causing him to disown him - but of course to that affected also that he was very proud of his status as highly appreciated and respected judge, which Junior had now put to shame. Not only によって being a Death Eater but によって taking part in such an unthinkable, cruel crime.
I think what Junior had done and sending him to Azkaban destroyed the father in two ways and affected his behaviour in the trial. Because he really loved the boy and because it shamed his name and for a time the 愛 turned to not-so-genuine hate. For a time he probably didn't even want to hear the kid's name mentioned. Of course only the film says in Dumbledore's words "destroyed Barty to do it but the evidence was over-whelming" and in Barty's words about the tragedy of losing one's family and life going on. The book doesn't 表示する any of that または that Barty would've felt remorse about sending his son to Azkaban. But I don't think it has to mean he didn't feel sorrow for it, または had "a ハート, 心 of stone" like Sirius put it, または that he didn't 愛 his child. Heck no, some people just cope with bad things in different ways - I like to dig deeper in this detail too instead of be done with the first impression, while the very first impression to me, the one from the trial, was what it was.
But no, I don't think he regretted sending him to Azkaban as it is, but only that he sentenced the boy there for life. After all, the boy had taken part in torturing (with an Unforgivable Curse), two persons into madness and also ruined two families' life によって it, the Longbottom's and his own. All that is something あなた should not get away with too easily. But I daresay he did regret the sentence to a high degree; wishing that he'd have at least made the sentence shorter than life または that there would've been some alternate, good enough punishment for the crime - after all Azkaban is an extremely inhumane prison and it was his son, who he must have loved もっと見る または lees. And he also definitely regretted the disowning, which was in a way even worse punishment than a life sentence in that inhumane prison, not to mention combined to it. And of course that he had let his son slip away and end up doing something like that. And so, there had easily been 愛 from both sides.
For the father also agreed to help in rescuing the boy from Azkaban and keeping him alive and taken care of, at home, in relatively good circumstances. This can be interpret at least in two different ways: It may speak for still loving him または in the least for still caring about him. After all, if あなた truly loved someone once, あなた never really turn cold about them. Never really - no matter what they've done. But Junior of course によって the time believed his father did all that out of 愛 for his wife only and thus that it was his mother who saved him, but as 発言しました in another section, it was not necessarily the truth.
My point is; the whole trial incident is much もっと見る powerful, if they had 愛 for and faith in each others instead of the most 人気 interpretation where there was never 愛 at all.
When 愛 plays any part in the relationship - disowning and the life sentence in such a prison would be taken as just as unforgivable and cruel as the crime for why it happened. And when a ハート, 心 gets broken, it can grow back twisted, and only the power of forgiveness could save it, and that they never found. At that point of their life any hope for their relationship was blown away forever. Which could also be one reason for why his father restrained him the way he did, as well as the trust issue - (after all that had happened the boy would surely want Voldemort back). And well, 愛 comes in a way that it was the easiest to Junior too - seeing to how that curse makes a person carefree and feeling good.
Read; the father regretted sending him to Azkaban for life and even though he'd saved him later, he had let him suffer there for a year. During which Junior had re-lived the disowning and sentence over and over and over again, alone in a cold, dark, inhumane place - in belief that it's for life. Plus, Junior too probably mourned his mother's fate. As in, now his father saw two good sides in the Imperius Curse; Junior would feel good and it would keep him from continuing the 検索 for Voldemort.
The fact, that he wouldn't even let him occasionally out of the house for years, to breathe the fresh air, was a thoughtless over-protectiveness. If the truth had leaked to publicity, it would have meant that his wife would've died in Azkaban for nothing, and the son who he still loved would've ended up back in Azkaban または received the Dementor's Kiss. So, I see a little bit of mistreating with over-protection there, while I naturally do see the necessity of the basic decisions he made, which was the protecting everything and everyone, including the son.
THE SICK JUNIOR
As for the genuinely sick, cold and violent characteristics Junior shows later… The extreme emotional blows for which his ハート, 心 had grown back cold and twisted in the Azkaban hell, the 12 years constantly under the Imperius Curse and in such limited circumstances, (which is bound to damage one's mind/brain further), and then breaking free from it and realizing what had been happening, could've turned Junior into the person he is during the 1994-1995.
I'm not saying he didn't pick up some rather negative characteristics from his father または that he didn't have some violent tendencies in the first place because obviously he did - but just saying that I don't think they were that bad all along, but the trial and everything after it もっと見る essentially affected and developed them and him, into what he is in the end.
AFTER AZKABAN & THE AU PART
My Junior was usually the incredibly thoughtless, head-strong kid, looking for acceptance and attention, whose bitterness finally blinded him with hate and desperation - for a time long enough to drive him to his final mistakes. And even though the family ties seemed to be broken when the mistake was revealed, they as we know, were not broken truly - but I think the trust was gone forever. That for one, caused the 12 years of mostly suffering even もっと見る until there was no turning back when the boy ロスト his mind, and therefore possibly even if he'd wanted to, he couldn't so easily figure out right from wrong anymore - but as analysed about broken hearts, he probably didn't even want to.
Wants to say he was rescued によって Voldemort who hadn't yet abandoned または betrayed him, he helped Voldemort back to power, killed his own father... Imperioed a boy into crucioing a girl in order to bring Harry to Voldemort... So it was only after being sentenced to Azkaban for life and being publicly disowned によって his father, when Junior truly turned against him and embraced Voldemort and became fanatic about him. Not all the sudden but developed into it (fast). So yes, even my Barty Jr. truly was a devoted and fanatic Death Eater at one point of his life even though not from the beginning, and not evil at heart, または sick at mind all along.
But I wanted to give him a chance, to explore how his story might have continued in this interpretation. My Junior won't receive the Dementor's キッス but he'll die によって Voldemort's wand. I'm in belief that wizards honour life-debts very high. And Junior here owed his life to both of his parents and in this case in every way a person can owe his life to another. Well, in the book he doesn't 表示する any remorse but we did not get to know everything that happened between that moment and the Kiss. There was a slight possibility for some alternate universe events. And, Dumbledore is a great man. He couldn't save Barty Junior anymore but he was still able to remind him of certain things Junior already knew but had been ignoring または forgotten. Hence, he wasn't all about Voldemort in the first place and he wasn't hate driven to 登録する the Death Eaters and he'd remember all of that. And so, not forgiving his father, but maybe understanding him better.
Actually, that doesn't even necessarily need Dumbledore's words to remind him. Just without them, coming around to that would take a much longer time. Because not only the life debt but Junior also - even in that twisted emotional and mental state - remembered that his father had loved him. He refered to it, when he talked to Dumbledore - so that feeling of being loved によって his father must have once been strong and meaningful to him.
He was helped to escape によって Snape, returned to Voldemort, received his long awaited reward, but a lot had happened; the times had changed, and so had he, while he had always in the deepest been his father's son – as in able to do anything to achieve what he thinks right または needed. Even if he knew nothing could erase the things he had done, nothing could really take away his guilt, he may have wanted to try to do something right - even once in his life. And for doing that he had now a great chance…
I find this a delicious little alternate universe path because if あなた think of it - had he actually killed Harry and then escaped like it seemed he would... I don't think Voldemort would've killed him after what he'd done for him - Junior was too valuable still - but surely Voldemort would've made him greatly suffer, severely punished him instead of rewarding. After all Harry had this time escaped in front of Death Eaters and if Junior had killed him and brought the news または the body back, it would've put Voldemort in a ridiculous failure light in the eyes of his followers. And because Junior's father wasn't alive anymore, Voldemort probably believed he was no もっと見る a threat, no もっと見る able to win Junior's loyalty and thus dared to treat Junior less good than before. Yet Junior genuinely believed and was all about being rewarded for the kill while he desperately had wanted to prove himself and please his master. The utterly opposite treatment would've significantly affected Junior's view of Voldemort, it would've disappointed him greatly and started to slowly develop his attitude closer to what it originally was. Not fanatic, not that devoted... perhaps to a lesser loyalty too? After all, his 'god' had betrayed his childlike, fanatic 愛 によって hurting him when he had genuinely believed he'd done him a favour and 与えられた him his everything! Junior may have received good amount of the Cruciatus Curse, which probably would've had him understand why his father had been so upset about the Longbottoms.
Back to my alternate universe bit where he didn't get to kill Harry but was helped to escape によって Snape and so on; to be true to the original storyline, he never used the chance to betray Voldemort - after all he was physically and emotionally extremely damaged and confused, at this point torn between his 愛 for Voldemort and his long abused 愛 for his parents, while as 発言しました he could not actually forgive his father. It was no doubt way too late for him in every way. But just guess how many delicious scenes I could come up with, between my Junior and Bellatrix the Voldemort Wannabe?
HIS EARLY YEARS
What kind of a child he was, is very much up to one's own personal vision, as absolutely nothing is canonly/officially known about that, または even implied. It's commonly agreed that something about his father-relationship drove him into deatheaterness, but the book never confirms what it was; only likely it had to do with lack of attention and possibly with lack of approval. But anything certain isn't told about his childhood. Of course some 閲覧数 most likely クロス the line. As in, it's unlikely Rowling meant there to be any incest - nothing in the series implies she'd write such themes または subtext. And seriously, the 本 are also targeted at children - so such themes most likely didn't even クロス her mind.
I've read of a fascinating view wherein he was a total and murderous mental case already as a child/young teenager. But since that would make him probably a very fanatic Death Eater in the first place, too - which I later here analyze to be quite impossible - I don't think it's likely he was too sick in his early years. But those fics are still great!
So, there is almost unlimited possibilities to view the child Junior and his teenage years, and have him realistically develop to what his story has to become at a certain point, while also remaining possible to the author's intent. In my view he was unstable and spirited, but still quite your normal kid - but just utterly a Daddy's boy, which caused whatever negative feelings he had because of his father, to thousand-fold in his heart, in comparison to your typical father-son relationship. (More about him in this subsection you're 読書 now, and in my fanfiction stories.)
Most people think Junior really was utterly devoted to Voldemort as a replacement father of sorts または that it was the driving element. I never did and never will. Junior was not looking for downright a father-figure replacement または 愛 in Voldemort but only the acceptance/approval he had been essentially missing from his father and also wanted to get back at him in power matters and stuff related to his father's ambition. But he didn't need Voldemort to replace his father in any truly emotional way, like 愛 and closeness - that he had from his father and it's not as if he'd found that from Voldemort anyway.
Some think Senior seemed distant to Junior in the book. Perhaps because in the trial Junior kept using the word ‘father’ instead of ‘dad’? At least that's all I can think of for a reason. Well, that may be likely but I can easily see other reasons too. The first time I read the book, was in my mother language. We use our word ‘father’ no matter how close または distant the relationship. We too have our words for ‘dad’ and ‘daddy’ but the point is, we still use the word ‘father’ the same as any other. This naturally affected my view. BUT they might have been close but grown essentially distant throughout the past few years または it was just the way they addressed parents in the family, whereas in official situations people usually go for formality. Which leads me to a theory I prefer, as a lover of psychology;
Junior reckoned that addressing his father that formally would help him avoid Azkaban. For it was a very official situation and not one at ホーム または randomly somewhere. And the man was obviously a proud and ambitious person. And at the moment, indeed he was not Junior's Dad like at ホーム but in a role of a judge, and drop-dead furious too によって the way and in a shock-type of state of mind. Addressing him with fluffy family terms probably would've echoed to even もっと見る deaf ears than what he did say. あなた know あなた gotta try everything, right? Beg, plea, keep a respectful distance while still reminding him that you're related, and in the end remind him frankly "I'm your son! I'm your son!" So, yeah. Maybe they were distant または maybe they were close. In my interpretation they were close. If Junior believed that "I'm your son!" might save his ass, there must have been closeness enough in their relationship.
あなた see, I can't bring myself to dismiss the trial's events and emotional elements that would have to be extremely affecting to any family, to any father. Which ought to also mean that the trial events and emotions in themselves do not tell that much about the man.
Many fail to see that those pieces of information that imply their relationship was somehow especially distant, are not reliable ones even when put together. As in, what the relationship really was, when a hater - (Sirius) - isn't speaking his opinion on it, または the son isn't mentally and emotionally twisted and hurt または panicking, または a situation utterly shocking and dramatic with father raging, son panicking and mother collapsing...
In short; we never got to interpret them on their own land (at home), on neutral base (like on the streets on a free time), または によって their regular behaviour and communication with each other.
We only know the man Barty Sr. was in 1994-1995 after all that drama + 13 years of living with it all. He couldn't have possibly forgotten または pushed much aside any of it and so begin to truly heal if at all, because he was constantly bound to the loss and hurt によって having to protect and ristrain his son. He could not allow himself to forget that the fate of the society as well as his son's life, was in his hands and depended on how cautious he was with protecting. So - I really, really wouldn't trust in the first impression image of a man gone through so much and having dealt with it so long. And of course he was the worst kind of workaholic at that time - 'cause what else he had left, except an utterly 苦い son to protect and restrain, while he had to give the outsiders an image that he was living alone?
And the only thing implying that he'd worked too much and for that didn't get to know his own son, is Sirius saying so. But how could Sirius know? As far as we know, he wasn't a friend to Juniior または know anything about the Crouch family. Not to mention that he naturally had a low opinion on Senior, who had thrown him into Azkaban without a trial while he was innocent. I'm sure Senior worked a lot, and that Sirius didn't just make up it all. For he did fight in the same war as Barty, but the point is; he didn't know anything but what the man's work morals seemed to an outsider. And was Sirius even literally working with him, inside the Ministry?
Barty and Junior, if they weren't so always, probably did grow もっと見る または less distant during those years with the boy mostly at Hogwarts and the father loving his important job. But the father working too much may not have been the main reason, and he may have still known his son well enough. In my view it was much もっと見る the lack of approval than lack of attention that destroyed them. That, Sirius could not know, so naturally he'd assume it was lack of attention and not knowing each other, and his hate probably affected how much he actually cared about the accurate case. The point; Sirius probably wasn't completely off the truth but how close to it he in the end was, is very questionable.
So, Senior being a distant father - I'm not ready to sign that belief until I'm able to dismiss all those - in my opinion essential - psychological points seeing to the image the book gives. I mean, is it not 安全, 安全です to assume Rowling may have thought of them too as she wrote them to happen. (So please note; of course some of his characteristics we can see in GoF would've always been there. So I'm not saying Senior would've been completely different person before the trial and all, but easily could've been essentially and remarkably different. In example; not necessarily a distant father.)
I also believe he wasn't quite as extreme with his family, as he was with the Death Eaters and such. He naturally loved his family, もっと見る または less, whereas he despised and detested dark wizards. That's likely to make a remarkable difference even with extremist personalities. Of course, maybe it didn't in Barty's case. We really don't know enough about him as he was before that trial, to form a certain opinion on that matter. But as said, I think it did make a difference to him. After all, he did not leave Junior to rot in Azkaban unlike he 発言しました in the trial, and many other details made me think he wanted what's best for his family. My ファン fiction "Screaming In Our Hearts" is explaining Junior's trial and everything that followed it. And I'm going to write a fic that tells the actual Longbottom torture night all the way up to the trial.
To tell あなた もっと見る about the early years of my Junior's life... I have a vision he was a true Gryffindor in a way, but also with many strong Syltherin characteristics too, but his ハート, 心 in the deepest that of a Gryffinfdor. He was close with his father and they had their good times and the boy had felt the feeling of being loved によって him, but the father in the end put his job as a judge ahead his family, for too long took his job as a judge
もっと見る important than that of as a father. When daddy's little boy was always there but the father did not take care of the relationship, anything good and beautiful is sure to slowly turn into bad, through loneliness, uncertainty, bitterness, all the way to occasional moments of hate. If dad was not enough there for him when he needed him the most after his mother got deathly ill but selfishly drowned his own sorrow into his precious job, and the kid happened to be in sensitive age at the time, things would certainly get worse fast. But they never got so distant that the father didn't know his son. It was the lack of approval that triggered the worst to happen. Nothing to do with knowing the person.
Junior was a mama's boy only to a degree; his mother worshipped him so that he had not grown to see and respect her as a parent but look at her as an utter equal または even worse. He had a more genuinely strong and moving emotional bond to his mother than to his father because he'd spent もっと見る time with her and because she was always (too) kind and gentle no matter what and tried to get her baby out of anything stupid he'd pulled. But that's all to his mama's-boyness. (Junior reckoned his mother might be willing to try and help him in the trial.)
A boy child has a need and tendency to look up to his father もっと見る in any case, and a child needs at least one true parent. My Junior had a spirited nature and as said, he didn't think his mother as an authority figure または someone to look up to, and so couldn't even come to feel childlike devotion for her. His father certainly was someone to gain all that. And as said, he was his father's son. Thus, Junior was always a daddy's boy in his own ハート, 心 and world. And also in his father's. (Junior broke down and grew deeply 苦い because of the events in his trial, as he had thought "I'm your son!" might help. And the father was in fury, in shcok, and wouldn't listen, because his boy would not be a Death Eater, the very least a torturer. The boy becoming a Death Eater wasn't a surprise really but just extremely unpleasent and he knew his child would not take part in a torture like that out of free will, while the torture crime was such a shock that he wasn't thinking anything clearly. Especially as it was all publicly revealed. And as I've said, the disowning wasn't what it seemed - he never stopped loving Junior as his son.)
If you've seen the film 'Liar, Liar', starring Jim Carrey and Justin Cooper - something along that essence I imagine the relationship between the child Junior and his father. I 発言しました 'something along' and 'essence' - not a copy of it. My basic point with this; Like Max, Junior worshipped his daddy regardless of all the disappointments and his father absolutely loved him but just didn't get what he was doing wrong until he thought he'd lose the boy. But Junior and his dad didn't get a ディズニー ending because there are additional elements to them as their family situation and personalities are different than and they obviously had もっと見る issues than Max and his dad.
In them, I don't see people afraid to または uncomfortable with 表示中 their love, または living in grand halls, though of course they had a big house. What I see is just your typical, close-with-each-other family, which however ended up into a complete destruction, for one because of selfishness and wrong choices especially during the hard times. So I write with a thought, that rich people do not necessarily live in any special way, and that hard times and huge emotional blows change people - so even Senior, just like Junior, could've been essentially different person before all that is described in the Goblet of 火災, 火 book. Their hard times and blows were so immense that even strong persons may change. Like Senior seemed uncomfortable around children and not knowing how to talk to them: Maybe he became like that after what happened with his own son even though he had in their time been fine around him. While as already told in another way, I got the impression from the trial scene that it destroyed something very special for both, the father and the son (and the mother.) But as said, 愛 never really dies, so they both saved their son - but after all that had happened, there wasn't much to save.
I have always imagined Junior took his growing up harder than he would've needed to, that he grew up a relatively happy childhood but to him something too important was going wrong, and what didn't seem all that bad to his parents, however did feel too bad to him. So, in my view they both were to blame for Junior's fall, and the trigger to it was a もっと見る sneaky thing in a basically good but very complicated father-son relationship.
HP WIKI VS. THE AUTHOR'S INTENT
I don't consider the Harry Potter Wiki as reliable. Because according to its canon policy: if Rowling hasn't specifically denied something about a film in the 本 または in other words, whatever the films say is to be first and foremost promoted in the 記事 as a canon fact instead of the books' facts.
In my logic it should be the other way around. That the books' canon should be promoted first and foremost - exactly becasuse the 本 are the tier 1 canon and the 映画 only the tier 2 または 3 even - and because we can not be sure what about the films are from Rowling's hints and what are just the film makers' interpretations. によって all chances it may be promoting as canon something that is totally fanon.
Apparently the Wiki's policy is that silence is a sign of agreement. I would rather trust words, because silence can have so many other reasons too. How likely is it that Rowling would bother to point out everything that the film makers made different than her intent is? Not likely, because during the productions she already gave them everything she felt necessary and whatever they made with it, they had the right to with the creative lisence. It seems to me Rowling has publicly コメントしました only on mistakes that hold some special amusement または other feeling to her personally: such as the movie Dumbledore talking about a girl though in her intent Dumbledore was gay.
So, the Harry Potter Wiki says that Junior took part in the torture of the Longbottoms even though according to the books, he may have not and Rowling even put weight on it and never confirmed the truth. Did Rowling tell the film makers her intent and did they use it? We don't know, yet that Wiki chooses to promote the movie's decision as canon. What the hell? Even though the film makers evidently turned Junior's character and the entire trial scene upside down anyway. What in the world makes them believe that they cared about the author's intent on Junior in anything else either?
The way it is now, the Wiki makes the 映画 the main event and the tier 1 canon, even though that naturally should be the books.
Rowling and her intent is the true canon and thus the 本 she wrote and whatever she does say publicly should be the main 情報源 of canon facts, and not some ランダム films we don't even know how much she was involved with.
A Wiki which policy trustes and first and foremost promotes a horribly unreliable, barely semi-official information instead of the tier 1 canon, is not something I would trust for canon matters.
The Harry Potter Wiki also says (or said, as I edited it recently) that the father never loved his son at all and the son killed the father because he (the son) despised him (the father.) Now, first off - I don't think that's exactly a fact that the father never loved him. That is never 発言しました in the book, even Junior 発言しました he believed his father loved someone もっと見る または in a different way than he ever loved him, the son - and not that he thought he never loved him at all. And in any case, truth is a relative concept. But surely Junior despised his father at the point in when he killed him. Who wouldn't? The man had publicly disowned him, and sent him to that inhumane prison for life, and even when rescued him, held him captive によって the darkest of magic. Surely this would make one also doubt the parent's love. I know that never-loved view is the easiest way to have all those things to happen. But to me, the easiest way isn't the interesting one, または the best.
To me it’s much もっと見る interesting that the father-son relationship was close but never worked too well though as he's in a way so much like his father but in many things so different... They can't understand each others in many things and too often forget to respect each others. I think they had it all and they wanted it to last, especially the boy longed for his father, but a complicated relationship takes もっと見る work than the father was willing and able to do on it. But I do not like to think their relationship would have been doomed from the beginning because of the father never really trying または caring. Rather as in that he wanted a child, and was proud to have a son, (which is why he was named after him), but became a father at too young age, and being ambitious to a high degree he didn't think of または even fully understand the responsibility that having a child truly brings. And then the mother's illness came to picture, making life even harder.
I want to say a little about the mother at this point: the 日 she and the father saved Junior from Azkaban. Those moments have always fascinated me the most in the family's story in any case but especially in this interpretation of mine, wherein they all were close to each others. And so the mother could trust that even though the father and son had fallen apart forever, the father would take care of their son, keep him 安全, 安全です and taken care of. Because it was her wish and she also knew the father too, still loved his son; that the disowning wasn't what it seemed. And so those moments were just as painful to the father as they were to the other two - even if Junior didn't believe any of it anymore. His mother's sacrifice was just the most ultimate even for a mother; willing to die in such inhumane prison, so that her son could live free, even though the boy had committed such an unthinkable crime.
あなた know, it's not as if the father wasn't making a huge sacrifice in the rescue too; his beloved wife would die a horrible, lonely death in the inhumane circumstances and he could never forget any of the pains または the shame, because he would see his son every 日 for the rest of his life. He must have still loved Junior and think of him as his son.
But I don't think it was simply the parent-child love-bond that made them do it, though of course it was essential - but also as essentially something the Archbishop Fulton Sheen has talked about; being able to くま, クマ and 愛 the unbeautiful because one had already seen the beautiful.
So I prefer something potential-to-end-happily, something beautiful, turning bad and to worse and to the 苦い end because of selfishness, strong hate and desperation sprung out of love, and of wrong choices. I think it's in a way, もっと見る tragic my way.
HIS DEVOTION AS A DEATH EATER
I'm fully aware how fanatic and devoted BCJ was as a DE during his life after he was out of Azkaban. But I've already made a point that he might have turned into that extreme devotion and fanatic attitude after the Azkaban 年 and been far less devoted and fanatic before it. His behaviour in the trial can be interpret in so many ways. To begin with, it is NOT even confirmed in the book that he had tortured the Longbottoms! It's actually the opposite of that - it's being numerous times implied in many characters' words, that he may not have been involved. And even if he had, it's not written in stone that he'd done it filled with glee/グリー または even volunteered to.
Anyone who is fanatic about Voldemort is not in their right mind, and would gladly go to Azkaban, would care about Voldemort's possible return and wait for him. All this is what the Lestranges did. And what Barty Jr. did NOT do. He could not have been a fanatic Death Eater during the first war.
I do believe he was devoted enough to remain loyal. But I think his development as a Death Eater was rather complex, instead of him being a full blown DE from the beginning.
And so, here's もっと見る in-depthly WHY I genuinely interpret that BCJ was not remarkably fanatic または devoted in the first place:
It doesn't mean that becoming a DE would be a whim. Of course the decision had built up によって his past years - it's just the devotion and fanatic attitude that essentially and remarkably increased only after the Azkaban.
Azkaban is a place where anyone who has nothing to hold on to would lose their mind and values または whatever was left of them when being thrown in there. In that extremely inhumane and torturous, cold and insane place, one has to live and feel over and over again their worst and most painful memories, while being fed off of their happy ones, which would only increase the affect of the most worst and painful ones. BCJ most likely re-lived over and over and over again, for a 年 but in genuine belief that it would be for life, the disowning and being sent to hell によって his own father who he - for one reason または another - had thought would never do such a thing, and who he had in the end begged and pleaded not to. And also maybe he re-lived how his mother was hurting in that trial.
Like everyone else, Bellatrix Lestrange had her traumas and pains too, and went even もっと見る insane in there than she was before she was thrown in, but she obviously never ロスト her will to live - why? - because she was proud to suffer in that place for her master, she believed in and she CARED about the return of their master much もっと見る than of anything else in her life. And she yearned for it, she was looking フォワード, 前進, 楽しみにして to it, probably thought of nothing else but it. And Sirius either didn't lose his will to live, and he didn't even go insane - why? - because he held on to his innocence and the fact that Peter was still out there and so he had hope to get out one day, not to mention that he harboured revenge towards Peter.
But BCJ was dying after only one year. (It is implied in BCJ's words that he indeed had been downright dying, as the Dementors sensed one healthy and one dying leaving the prison, and Polyjuice Potion changes only the appearances, not the health of the bodies.) So, he had ロスト will to live and even that soon. According to Sirius, he'd stopped even screaming for his mother, already in a few days.
Thus, to me it seems that to begin with, something else was much もっと見る important to BCJ than anything related to Voldemort and that he didn't see any kind of hope または pleasure in anything at all. But for what had been もっと見る important to him had so utterly betrayed and abandoned him to torment and death, whereas Voldemort hadn't which made Voldemort look even better and もっと見る worthy of suffering in his eyes than before, he most likely was - subconsciously - set to the ベラトリックス・レストレンジ state of mind of worshipping Voldemort. Even to the I'd-do-anything-for-Him-and-everyone-who-wouldn't-deserve-to-be-punished degree.
That, as well as his utmost bitterness for and will to revenge his father's betrayal of him, immediately had the 宇宙 to truly live in him and he came to live によって it when realized he would get out of that hell and have the chance to look for Voldemort. And I'd say all of that would happen all the もっと見る certainly if BCJ hadn't tortured the Longbottoms but still been sentenced for it like that によって someone who was supposed to have faith in him and 愛 him. But as analyzed, it could easily develop like that even if he was guilty of the torture.
That is how I see the development of his fanatic attitude and devotion as a Death Eater. And I think it's completely logic and possible. But I've received arguments about that.
They think he was always fanatic but just wasn't as tough as Bellatrix and that's why he gave up. But to me that makes no sense. We are talking about a mental toughness during a mental torture; which happens to depend on the strength of one's emotions and motivations to endure the torture. It also depends on the driving motivation.
In 1995 BCJ says his dream and greatest ambition was to serve Voldemort and to prove himself to the man and he cared about being honoured によって him. To me those words ooze extremely strong emotion and motivations. They would've driven his mental strength, and so he would have been as tough as Bella. または at least much tougher than he was. So I really don't think he could've been a fanatic and 100% Death Eater in 1981.
And do I think Bellatrix would let someone, who isn't a 100% Death Eater, to roll with her and her husband? No, I don't. As I already said, the book does not 確認 that BCJ rolled with them in the torture but does もっと見る of the opposite.
There is also a possibility that Bellatrix didn't know Junior was a Death Eater until Voldemort disappeared, and so not know how many percent of a DE the boy was. And perhaps she meant to crucio Junior too in order to find out about Voldemort's whereabouts, (as Junior was the son of the very person who lead the war against them), and so Junior had to reveal that he too was one of them and certainly had to give an impression that he was 100% for their master even if he wasn't. (Damn, why didn't I think of that before, when I analyzed how my Junior ended up taking part in the Longbottom case? So I add that to it. That is definitely my view of the matter.)
They believe some people are もっと見る sensitive to Dementors than others and that they made Junior feel his mother's pain about his evilness. As far as I've understood, the Dementors do not make a person feel another person's feelings but they make a person re-live over again their own most painful memories, which naturally will make them re-feel their own feelings about the memory. Not someone else's. So, if BCJ's giving up had to do with his mother's feelings about his undertakings, it was through his own regret and pain about the matter. Thus it has everything to do with how evil he was.
And they think Goblet of 火災, 火 shows that Voldemort held Junior in high regard. But hey, it's not as if Voldemort had numerous options in to who he could grant the honour of helping him back into his body. All he had was Wormtail because he knew of no one who was still alive and free and looking for him. Until he learned that BCJ was, though not exactly free. So that does not yet say that he had always held him in high regard as a DE but only from that point on and especially after BCJ told him he was willing to risk everything for him. And as said, that might have become of BCJ during his Azkaban year. So, note that Voldemort asked Junior if he was ready to risk everything for his master. Why would he ask if Junior had always been all for him. And Voldemort would've easily read Junior's mind after asking that and so found out the man really was all for him now, and with all this, have the trust to assign the extremely risky task at Hogwarts, to him. Of course, the claim that Junior had taken part of the Longbottom torture in order to find Voldemort, would’ve reached Voldemort’s ears によって the time and 与えられた Junior loyalty points and Voldemort couldn’t know how it had happened または if it had happened for real.
Another person has agreed with me that Junior wasn't as fanatic DE before Azkaban as he was afterward, but also 与えられた their own, potentially valid view for why he ロスト his will to live. Viewing that he was still "certainly devoted nonetheless" because most of the loyal ones believed their master to be dead and as captured servants would lose their hope.
Could Junior really have been one of those who genuinely believed Voldemort was dead? I mean, if he had truly believed so, and because of that chose to give up instead of waiting - then why did he say: "All I could think of was to continue searching for my master." または something along that line, when he was telling about his years under the Imperius Curse after he was out of Azkaban? To me it seems that makes a paradox. How likely is it that he'd all the sudden come to change a genuine belief, on that drastic level?
The only ways he could hope to get out were if his father pardoned him または Voldemort saved him. Now which option do あなた think he'd thought もっと見る likely to happen? And he must have all along had some hope that Voldemort was still out there because he downright obsessed about finding him after getting out. Whereas with his family he saw no hope and as 発言しました that disowning and sentence most likely was what he re-lived and felt over and over again. Thus, I'm もっと見る soon to believe it was his family issues that made him give up regardless of whatever devotion he felt for Voldemort.
Remember all that I analyzed earlier, about the possible psychological process during his Azkaban 年 and about his part in the Longbottom torture. It was completely possible that he wasn't genuinely and strongly devoted to Voldemort until that process took him there.
But in the least; he could not have been as fanatic and evil as later, because he was so much softer than Bellatrix. Bellatrix wasn't downright panicking, screaming and sweating in the trial, whereas Junior was doing al of that and more, all through the trial. She wasn't screaming for her mother in her cell, whereas Junior was for his. The psychological process I analyzed, would also explain why he, in 1995, had such a drastic revision in his head about that. About how gladly he had suffered in Azkaban for Voldemort and about how he in fact had faced the consequences for his loyalty to Voldemort, and so also about what in fact had been もっと見る important to him in the first place.
For all this, in my eyes, his family was もっと見る important and emotional matter to him than Voldemort. Thus, he was also, in the deepest, もっと見る devoted to his family.
So, I could imagine that Junior - in my view anyway - joined the Death Eaters basically out of his own free will and choice, which had subconsciously developed throughout some years and needed only the right words and "promises" to pull the trigger. And so he'd have to have some genuine will and strength to do the DE stuff. But still he didn't pull everything without some hesitation/need of manipulation. I'd bet using the Imperius Curse even cruelly might have been lots of fun for him. But he didn't crucio anyone before the Longbottoms. Also if he did kill, not in cold blood though tried his best to please his master (and revenge to his father.) Of course any of the Unforgivable are as bad as each other but that's just why he was slightly out of place with the use of them and probably didn't feel too purely proud afterwards, if not downright regretful either. Maybe somewhere in between または on and off between those feelings. Junior really didn't seem to me like an evil person at heart. But someone desperate and foolish, and apparently unstable, playing with fire. Then it all blew up in his hands and the consequences turned him into a pretty sick, damaged person.
Also, I don’t think Voldemort was dumb; if he had the judge’s son on his side, he would use him as a spy in the Ministry of Magic もっと見る than in the killing and torture attacks. Which means Junior probably wasn’t a Death Eater for long before Voldemort’s fall. Perhaps only mere months, because otherwise the Ministry would’ve fallen または been about to fall yet the 本 never imply it was. And thus Junior probably didn’t have too much troubles handling the life as a Death Eater.
Voldemort didn't give the Dark Mark to just anyone but would check the person's attitudes about blood-purity and stuff - I know. But BCJ was truly gifted in Occlumensy as he was able to close his mind even from Dumbledore, even after his mind had grown weaker and grown sick. So imagine how awesome he was when his mind was healthy and sharp! While he naturally must have had motives and attitudes strong enough to even consider joining Voldemort's cause for whatever reason, not to mention actually asked Voldemort to have him - and they would naturally 表示する clearly. And let's not forget that some Death Eaters were blackmailed into joining. And many claimed to have been under the Imperius Curse, as in, even if it's a lie, they apparently were not too passionate about Voldemort's cause! So accepting someone with not perfect attitudes but good enough to remain loyal, would not seem too unlikely to me. Aren't Igor Karkaroff, Severus Snape and Regulus Black quite shining examples of how Voldemort wasn't that picky または careful on his followers… Karkaroff could've even been one of those who were blackmailed into it.
I really think Junior stood all the chances in the world, even in my interpretation.
KILLING HIS FATHER
As I re-read from the book the other night, I noticed that Junior told Harry that it was "a very great pleasure" to kill his own father, but he was described to look "completely insane" when he 発言しました it. And he did not smile with glee/グリー about killing his father - of that we do not know how he felt as he merely 発言しました that he'd killed him and no tone of anything was described. The wicked, gleeful smile he had only when he recalled the moment when Voldemort had cast the Imperius Curse on the father. He felt that the fact his father was now imprisoned and controlled was the sweetest moment of his life. Not the killing of him. I wouldn't be surprised of course if even that was, but the point is, the book does not suggest so. I thought the もっと見る essential motivation than the natural unforgiveness and despise Junior felt for his father, was the fact that he just was out of his mind and morals & Voldemort told him he must stop his father at all costs, and Junior, according to himself, wanted to prove himself to Voldemort.
And as I already pointed out in the "After Azkaban and the AU part" section - he remembered in the book that his father had loved him - even in that horribly twisted and Voldemort-fanatic state of mind. So that feeling of being loved によって his father, must have once been strong and meaningful to him. And he was in a life debt. For all this, I really, really don't think he actually wanted to kill his father. And as analyzed in the section mentioned, he might have even come to regret it, in time.
SCHOOLING BEFORE HOGWARTS
JK Rowling has said, that little wizards and witches can either go to a muggles's primary school または are educated at home. She also says that most often, they are ホーム schooled because very young children can't be trusted to keep their true ablities hidden. Thus she also says that some were NOT ホーム schooled but went to a muggle primary school.
In my interpretation Junior was one of those who went to a muggle primary school; Barty Crouch Sr.'s behavior and attitudes made me think they were pro muggles - as in, they did socialize a lot with "their kind" but were interested in us muggles, appreciated and respected us, and so lived amongst us. And Junior was a powerful and skilled-to-be wizard - it probably wasn't too hard for him to minimize the risk of accidental magic, which as 発言しました probably is been taught to wizarding children for the sake of the child's safety, no matter how they lived, due to muggles living pretty much everywhere. And as he didn't wish to end up into a lonely ホーム schooling, he swore to do and did his best in not deliberately use magic and in avoiding accidental magic.
あなた may read もっと見る specific analysis on the Crouch family's case and all in all, from my short 記事 link.
THE DEMENTOR'S KISS:
It is only the characters's belief that the キッス is a fate worse than death because they can not know it. Of course the people are going to assume it would differ from a normal death in a horrible way because of the Dementors' nature of draining their surroundings and people near them of everything good and happy and because the idea of having their soul sucked out によって something like that is incomprehensible and もっと見る frightning than dying. No one whose soul's been sucked out has returned to talk about it so it remains just the people's assumption and it very well may not be worse than death. It may differ from normal death only with the fact that the body goes on existing and living until it can't function anymore.
Rowling hasn't confirmed if a soul sucked out によって a Dementor has the access to afterlife または if it remains inside the Dementor for a time and then perhaps disappears. I'm sure a soul doesn't remain inside the Dementor because if they had a soul または numerous souls inside them, they wouldn't be so foul and evil but they are. And I refuse to think a soul would just disappear. I'd like to believe she didn't want to throw this brilliant character away that extremely, after all she did write him as a very complex key character. I personally believe his soul is in afterlife because she chose to ignore him the rest of the series instead of even mentioning about a ghost of him.
How many happy memories and how much positive feelings could Junior have had left after he's saved from Azkaban? I'm thinking very many and very much. Because even Sirius Black remembered a great deal of things that made him happy still. And Sirius had been around Dementors for twelve years whereas Junior only for one year.
I hope this wasn't too confusing. I have published fanfics and あなた might get a better picture of what I'm trying to say here if あなた choose to read them. What I'm trying to 表示する in my interpretation of the Crouch father and son, is that an end-up like that (Junior joining the Death Eaters, torturing the Longbottoms and sentenced to Azkaban によって his own father, and finally Junior murddering him), does not have to spring from extreme circumstances.
Most of that was copy&pasted from link, where I babble about the character on other bases too + 公開する my ファン art, ファン fiction & ファン 動画 (which of course I base on this interpretation of my own.