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Why is Harry Potter もっと見る successful than Twilight?

 LottieVal99 posted 1年以上前
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JaseKS said:
Because it appeals to all tastes.

Romance: There is some slight romantic appeal that applies to most characters.

Horror: It has a horror edge to it.

Fantasy: Wizards. Nuff' said.


Where as Twilight contains mostly romance. It also isn't that well written. Stephanie Myers uses large words that no one else does in a casual conversation just to hide the fact that she has an underdeveloped style of writing.


Also, the problem with Twilight is, many of the characters are underdeveloped. I mean, people like Jasper または Victoria could be awesome characters, but Stephanie is too busy focousing on one character. Edward. And even he is underdeveloped.

I also thing that because all the guys are fawning over Bella, it doesn't seem relatable. At least the characters in Harry Potter have flaws, making them もっと見る realistic. It also has a solid back story, and isn't as scattered. I feel like the events in twilight are a jumbled mess.
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posted 1年以上前 
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I see the logic in this. A book that appales to a wide variety of audiences is bound to have もっと見る success. But Twilight is on the horror edge too.
zanhar1 posted 1年以上前
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I suppose, it depends on how あなた look at it, I guess.
JaseKS posted 1年以上前
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'Tis true it all depends on how much gore one can handle.
zanhar1 posted 1年以上前
alisonfaith297 said:
there are 5 main reasons:
#1 the HP films have gained much better critic reception than the twilight films, seriously, based on metacritic (which is a well recognized sites where is gives an 全体, 全体的です score of film considering all possible critic scores)
HP average scores: 74%
Twilight: 51%

SCores によって Rotten Tomatoes (another site which gather up scores but calculates in a different way)
HP average: 85%
twilight average:39%

#2 HP 本 are way better in literary terms, JKR has won quite a few prestigious book awards while steph meyer has only gain some titles from places such as entertainment weekly for 作者 of the year, (take note, when her book gain もっと見る popularity, JKR published majority of the HP novels already). to back up my story more, this is a quote from Stephen king (who in case あなた dont know, is an extremely well noted 作者 in the literary world): "the real difference is that Jo Rowling is a terrific writer, and Stephenie Meyer can't write worth a darn. She's not very good.people are attracted によって the stories, によって the pace and in the case of Stephenie Meyer, it's very clear that she's 書く to a whole generation of girls and opening up kind of a 安全, 安全です joining of 愛 and sex in those books. It's exciting and it's thrilling and it's not particularly threatening because it's not overtly sexual. A lot of the physical side of it is conveyed in things like, the vampire will touch her forearm または run a hand over skin, and she just flushes all hot and cold. And for girls, that’s a shorthand for all the feelings that they’re not ready to deal with yet."

#3 That quote によって stephen king leds to my third point, speaking as a female of this generation ( not to be feminist または anything), i find that the entire story of twilight to be very demeaning, it makes it sound like all girls can do is not help to fall in 愛 with a guy and if the guy were to leave her, her whole world will fall apart.

#4 to be honest, i dont see much plot in the movies, it もっと見る of people screaming over the fact that taylor lautner has nice abs, and robert patterson is sparkly??? In HP, there is an actually story あなた can follow while twilight plot just seems to be predictable.

#5 lets just be honest here, most of us here would rather watch a good battle between good and evil ( Harry Vs Voldy) while watch a girl named bella, fall for some guy and well the rest is history.
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 there are 5 main reasons: #1 the HP films have gained much better critic reception than the twilight films, seriously, based on metacritic (which is a well recognized sites where is gives an 全体, 全体的です score of film considering all possible critic scores) HP average scores: 74% Twilight: 51% SCores によって Rotten Tomatoes (another site which gather up scores but calculates in a different way) HP average: 85% twilight average:39% #2 HP 本 are way better in literary terms, JKR has won quite a few prestigious book awards while steph meyer has only gain some titles from places such as entertainment weekly for 作者 of the year, (take note, when her book gain もっと見る popularity, JKR published majority of the HP novels already). to back up my story more, this is a quote from Stephen king (who in case あなた dont know, is an extremely well noted 作者 in the literary world): "the real difference is that Jo Rowling is a terrific writer, and Stephenie Meyer can't write worth a darn. She's not very good.people are attracted によって the stories, によって the pace and in the case of Stephenie Meyer, it's very clear that she's 書く to a whole generation of girls and opening up kind of a 安全, 安全です joining of 愛 and sex in those books. It's exciting and it's thrilling and it's not particularly threatening because it's not overtly sexual. A lot of the physical side of it is conveyed in things like, the vampire will touch her forearm または run a hand over skin, and she just flushes all hot and cold. And for girls, that’s a shorthand for all the feelings that they’re not ready to deal with yet." #3 That quote によって stephen king leds to my third point, speaking as a female of this generation ( not to be feminist または anything), i find that the entire story of twilight to be very demeaning, it makes it sound like all girls can do is not help to fall in 愛 with a guy and if the guy were to leave her, her whole world will fall apart. #4 to be honest, i dont see much plot in the movies, it もっと見る of people screaming over the fact that taylor lautner has nice abs, and robert patterson is sparkly??? In HP, there is an actually story あなた can follow while twilight plot just seems to be predictable. #5 lets just be honest here, most of us here would rather watch a good battle between good and evil ( Harry Vs Voldy) while watch a girl named bella, fall for some guy and well the rest is history.
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everything あなた 発言しました is true and i 愛 the picture
noobio7143 posted 1年以上前
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^When did she say that King was a jerk solely because he doesn't support Twilight?
VampiresRevenge posted 1年以上前
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No, I didn't mention Twilight.
cassie-1-2-3 posted 1年以上前
cassie-1-2-3 said:
Financially?
もっと見る people have bought the Harry Potter 本 and movies.
That is all.

I think they're both pretty much equal when it comes to any other form of success.
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thats not true, the only way in success that twilight is もっと見る successful. and that would be twilight saga site has もっと見る ファン than HP site on FANPOP.
alisonfaith297 posted 1年以上前
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ok.. hold on.. just stop right there.. HP 本 ARE WAY BETTER.. あなた can argue about the movie an i agree it tends to go back and forth but when it comes to book.. NO FEAKIN WAY! the hp 本 are way better, granted some peopel just bought the 本 for the sake of 読書 but HP 本 in the literary world is very well received unlike twilight on the other hand...
alisonfaith297 posted 1年以上前
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Says you, not me. Sorry. I o.ly bought them because I try to complete every series I start, no matter if I like it または not. I had no intention on 読書 any of the 本 "quickly", so a としょうかん, ライブラリ was out of the question.
cassie-1-2-3 posted 1年以上前
bri-marie said:
Luck. When it comes to entertainment, that's all it really boils down to.
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luck is one part.. but being lucky can only get あなた so far...
alisonfaith297 posted 1年以上前
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Luck is only a factor...
zanhar1 posted 1年以上前
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Not really. There are 本 way better than HP (and Twilight) that are in the shadows. There are 本 that are worse than HP (and Twilight) that are extremely popular. J.K. (and Meyer) got lucky.
bri-marie posted 1年以上前
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I agree, bri-marie.
VampiresRevenge posted 1年以上前
noobio7143 said:
because harry potter is better. nuff said.
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Exactly!(like your アイコン btw ^^)
vampiressJazz posted 1年以上前
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thanksh
noobio7143 posted 1年以上前
zanhar1 said:
- it's been around longer
- it's original unlike twilight, there are hundreds of vampire romances
- the ファン seem もっと見る dedicated in my opinion
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posted 1年以上前 
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There are hundreds of wizard adventures too
youknowit101 posted 1年以上前
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^ yeah pretty much what dracofan 発言しました (I can't believe it! dracofan あなた make me change my opinion about あなた just from this one comment!) O_O
ClaireVoyant posted 1年以上前
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^ Thanks? lmao
dracofan001 posted 1年以上前
ThePrincesTale said:
Apart from having a better plot, and better characters, and things like that, there are もっと見る mundane reasons- I will focus on these and try to be unbiased.

One of these is who they are both targetted for. Twilight (mostly) only appeals to teenage girls. Harry Potter, on the other hand, can be read によって anyone in any age group, from a 6-year-old to a 90-year-old, and によって any gender.

I think Harry Potter also stands out more. As a もっと見る unique story, it does not blend into all the other vampire romances as Twilight does. Harry Potter, as I see it, is quite unique in its genre. Not only this, it is more than one genre, with a hint of romance, and mystery, and horror added to the fantasy- this just aids it in its intrigue. While Twilight, I think, is pure romance.

Harry Potter is also もっと見る distinguished, with JK Rowling having earned もっと見る awards and もっと見る prestigious awards in literacy. This actually does help in people's choosing of a book.
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IKR!! i like buying book when i know または have some kind of shiny medal printed on the front.. lols.. call me cheesy but i like it!
alisonfaith297 posted 1年以上前
dalilee said:
Nawl baby!! Twilight is way better than harry potter!!!! Ill admit that I 愛 harry potter but aint no way he got twilight beat.
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^mmmmhmm?
dracofan001 posted 1年以上前
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yeah right :P
dracofan001 posted 1年以上前
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I agree with zanhar1.
ArcticWolf posted 1年以上前
vampiressJazz said:
I'll make this short and sweet. Harry Potter unlike Twilight actually had a plot, and well developed characters and ideas that actually make sense unlike ヴァンパイア that light up like a クリスマス 木, ツリー when they go out into the sun!
Also Twilight is really Cliche.

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Agreed
zanhar1 posted 1年以上前
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If that were the case, Twilight wouldn't be successful at all. You're trying to give reasons why Twilight isn't successful, and you'll be wrong no matter what あなた say because there's no denying that Twilight IS successful.
cassie-1-2-3 posted 1年以上前
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I think that Harry Potter has a little もっと見る success due to the 書く and the controversy surrounding the books' intentional theme. Whereas Twilight didn't face as much, yet became successful on another level.
traceyhp posted 1年以上前
noturcreeper said:
because harry isnt as much of a wuss as edward
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 because harry isnt as much of a wuss as edward
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THIS.
JaseKS posted 1年以上前
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lmao true
noobio7143 posted 1年以上前
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The sparkle part really ruin the horror and serious atmosphere the 作者 try to create. It's like trying to make people scared but we ended up laughing. (at least in most of the case)
ClaireVoyant posted 1年以上前
GoldnSnitch_96 said:
I havent read any of the Twilight 本 cause I don't want to be bashed によって everyone at my school and the fact that I have heard too many bad things, but I watched one of the movies, and my analysis was: It went absolutely no where. There wasn't much action, and as far as romance went, I have been もっと見る touched によって episodes of the Simpsons. So I guess cant really bash Twilight too much cause I dont know a great deal about it, but I guess at the end of the day, Harry Potter was もっと見る appealing. It appealed to me,and I 愛 it. I find it dramatic, intense, and simply, well, EPIC. The plot is so rich and it progresses smoothly, and also I think Twilight appeals もっと見る to those who ...well, saying less sophisticated would be cruel, but then again, the majority of the ファン I have met only rave on about how hot the guys are. Like really. Thats it? Hot guys? Psh.

But thats probably the 全体, 全体的です reason, it mostly appeals to horny girls, to put it bluntly and Harry Potter appeals to EVERYONE. Like seriously, anyone can read it.
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*awaits an argument*
GoldnSnitch_96 posted 1年以上前
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It's cool, but saying stuff like that makes あなた look immature and あなた don't want that image.
zanhar1 posted 1年以上前
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@zanhar1, correct, and especially not on a place like this.
GoldnSnitch_96 posted 1年以上前
dracofan001 said:
why i think it is: well people can relate better to the characters in harry potter. i mean most people will read stories/ watch 映画 based on how relatable/likeable the characters are. i mean true some people will watch 映画 like twilight and wish they had hot guys like edward and jacob fighting over them, but most people will like to see other people going through their difficult situations and problems. Anyway the point is that "It does not do to dwell on dreams, and forget to live." --Albus Dumbledore. See twilight is not relatable. harry potter is. people like 映画 that are relatable.

my point:

people are most likely to read 本 that help them get through things. they like to know (like i 発言しました above) that other people went through their problems and got through them. no person has the problem of ヴァンパイア and 狼男 fighting over them.
and this DOES have to do with the question... it is why もっと見る people read/like harry potter and it is もっと見る succesful.
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Wow, none of that applies to me at all.
cassie-1-2-3 posted 1年以上前
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@cassie-1-2-3 i really don't care
dracofan001 posted 1年以上前
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That's fine.
cassie-1-2-3 posted 1年以上前
Bubba38 said:
harry potter is もっと見る successful than twilight もっと見る multiple reasons. 1. rowling gave depth to many characters which included flaws and tht made them もっと見る relatable, she didnt focus just on 1 または 2 people. 2. there was multiple angles to evry storyline...the pros and cons were included and it made ta reader really think wat was gonna happen. 3. it had もっと見る than 1 subject: there was love, vengence,friendship,fights within friendship and ta feeling of having a family. 4. it realted to もっと見る people...twilight is mostly for teenage girls where HP is loved my all ages male または female. basically 全体, 全体的です HP connects with people on multiple levels and just has a better storyline.
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missceleb86 said:
twilight has no plot all it is bout is the fact that ベル an 18 yr old girl falls in 愛 with edward who is 108 yr old vamp and who has never fallen in 愛 in all his yrs which is pretty stupid and that bella is so helpless all she can do is screan "EDWARD!" when he is getting thrashed によって the volturi and when he's away she wants to kill herself. i mean like seriously girl get a life. Hp on the other hand had love, adventure, good and bad cool dangerous dementors and death eaters and it had Lord Voldemort who is the most formidable wizard.
And on IMDb which is a well known critics site twilight breaking dawn part 1 had scored 4.8 out 10 and hp 7 part 2 has scored 8.5 out of 10 and Hp also beat バットマン dark knight which is like a very good film. So i think enough is said
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ClaireVoyant said:
wow, so many big answer.
I'll try to answer it from different pov: the fans/fandom

- some of あなた 発言しました that it's because HP has been around longer. it doesn't always happen that way though.
Most of 人気 movies/books, became 人気 thanks for the fan. (i.e. によって the amount of fanfic, doujinshi, fanart, graphic ETC) I've seen people already create a lot of fanart and fanfic for a movie that's just out this 年 (ex; thor, X-men first class) because they are just THAT good.

- if people loved one movie. あなた can be sure that the fandom will grow. and the amount of fanfic/art/doujinshi will sky rocketing. for this to happen, the ファン need a movie that not only they can enjoy while they watching it in cinema. but also have a hidden subplot/subtext that they can bring to the fandom as a plot/subplot.

-considering HP has もっと見る mystery, and always have unexpected surprise every time the new 本 came. no wonder if the ファン have a field 日 palying with the plot. oh, the possibility あなた can make in J・K・ローリング 本 are almost limitless... and あなた wonder why people never tired of harry potter?

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well, あなた might not understand half the thing I 発言しました up there...
but my point is.
Base on the fandom (what I see)

HarryPotter=
-fanfiction; HP have about 500,000 in ff.net alone not to mention other site like LJ, HexFiles,RestrictedSection, dreamwidth, etc
-Doujinshi; GUH! the amount of doujinshi the japanesse fandom made for HP alone... I've seen hundreds of it in one site alone (sadly i have no paypal)
-fanart/graphic ; are あなた kidding me? just Google Harry potter in DA alone, not to mention tumblr and other site.

Twilight=
-fanfiction; about 180.000 in ff.net, and the one in LJ I heard it was not that active.
-doujinshi ; the japannesse one, i have yet to see. i have only see one graphic novel of twilight but it's official, published in america (if i remember correctly)
-fanart : quite a lot in DA but あなた have to discount the hate-art...
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twilight story was quite predictable (the princip of vampire vs werewolf has been recycled too many times). it doesn't provide the audience a new set of world that the ファン can 'explore' like HP.
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wow, maybe a little too long... I'll 編集 later when the internet connection a little better...
ClaireVoyant posted 1年以上前
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Agreed
zanhar1 posted 1年以上前
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kk :D
dracofan001 posted 1年以上前
HPfan236 said:
I think it is because Twilight seems to be aimed もっと見る at teenage girls または sometimes even mothers while Harry Potter extends to Children, Grown Up's, Teenagers, etc..
In my eyes harry potter also has もっと見る もっと見る moral lesson's and sends a もっと見る positive messages. beside's having the moral lessons HP is also full of action, adventure, suspense, and a little dash of Romance.
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brendaluvbunny said:
becuz harry potter is a timeless beautiful story about conquerin evil and twilight is about a girl who is playin 2 guys and finally piks 1 also 4 harry potter the 映画 were made beautifully with good actors and lots of work put in 2 it while twilight has some good actors and some not so good actors and not a lot of work into it
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Skyraven said:
Harry Potter was もっと見る successful than Twilight in many ways. First off, it had much もっと見る excitement and action in it, and many of the good guys die along with the bad. In Twilight, it has a big happy 'all-of-us-survived-and-the-bad-people-are-dead' ending. People like action and thrills, they don't want to sit there and read about Edward's looks for fifty pages または about how miserable Bella is without him.

And speaking of Edward and Bella, the characters in Harry Potter were all realistic. They had their flaws, their strengths, none of them were absolutely perfect and loved によって everyone. Take Hermione for example. She can be annoying, または a know-it-all, but without her, Harry and Ron would be doomed. On the contrary, Bella is perfect, beautiful, and loved によって everyone. The 分 she steps into her school, all of the guys want to 日付 her. She's absolutely depressing, flawless, and cannot live without Edward によって her side. Unlike Hermione, who's brave, independent, and willing to fight, Bella needs her guy for everything and is pretty much useless as a human. She also thinks that Edward stalking her and watching her sleep is romantic, which is a terrible example for young girls. It might trick them into believing that they cannot live without a man, that stalking is okay. It is NEVER okay!

The Harry Potter plot, even though it involves wizards and magic, is very original in the events, while Twilight is just another vampire 愛 story. In HP, there's always danger, trials, and inner troubles the characters have to face. In Twilight, there's about five pages of action and then everything's solved. That's it.

These are HUGE reasons contributing to why Harry Potter is so much もっと見る successful-it has a deep, thought-out storyline that every Harry Potter ファン can lose themselves in, realistic characters that we 愛 and relate to, plenty of excitement and action that leaves us wondering what happens next. When our お気に入り characters die, we seem to never stop grieving for the loss even if it is fiction. Even when the Deathly Hallows ended and we set the book down, it seems to never really end.

That's why Harry Potter is もっと見る successful-it has everything a real literature lover wants. Action, adventure, a good plot, developed characters, deaths on both sides, and real romance. People do not fall in 愛 によって looking at each other. All of the romance in Harry Potter was spread over the years; the two started as friends, and it grew into something stronger, deeper. While Twilight may have 'hot' guys, romance and drama, all that, it only really appeals to teenage girls, while anyone can read and enjoy Harry Potter. Nobody likes an unoriginal plot, または weak characters, no action....that's why Harry Potter was always a step ahead of Twilight in success.
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All the "bad people" did not die in Twilight.
cassie-1-2-3 posted 1年以上前
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i agree.. hermione is a much better role model. she choice her a path to fight good and evil instead of following ron.. 本 DO.. 本 BEING A PART OF MASS MEDIA DO! I DID AND ENTIRE レポート ON THIS AND STILL AM.. IT DOES MAKE AN IMPRESSION!!
alisonfaith297 posted 1年以上前
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It makes an impression, but it doesn't force people to do everything people read about.
cassie-1-2-3 posted 1年以上前
keep_smiling said:
I think its the story matter! Harry Potter is about friendship, courage and sacrifice. Not some 愛 triangle.J K rowling is simply marvellous! Nuf said!
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:D
alisonfaith297 posted 1年以上前
ArcticWolf said:
Harry Potter interests a greater range of people, so logically もっと見る people read the 本 and watch the movies. That's pretty much it. As others have said, I also think Harry Potter has a better plot and characters, but I really don't think that has much to do with the popularity. I think it all just comes down to basic interests.
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lollypop94 said:
- hp is unisex
- there are もっと見る hp 本 and 映画 so もっと見る sales
- hp been going longer so multi-generational
- hp is less controversial
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TsubasaPotter said:
Characters in Harry Potter have their stories. I don't see that in Twilight, except Jacob, Bella, Edward. Just them? Pretty boring actually, i think Meyer should watching Korean Drama for it, if she want to make a good romance story, hehe
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annabell9122 said:
duh a harry potter is better

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