I'm just curious because I've been reading a lot of stuff about how 'Naomi deserves someone better than Liam', but personally, I think that Liam deserves someone better than Naomi. She lies and manipulates. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind Naomi, but I think Liam was right to dump her.

I seriously hate how Liam treats Naomi. He knew who she was. He knew that she's bitchy, she likes to control things and that she's not nice girl. She screamed to him in Girls Fight This is me, Liam! And if you don't like me for who I am, that's just too damn bad! . So he had his chance. He could left her then... but he didn't do it. He accepted her like she was. And after few episodes he changes his mind again? Who are you Liam, a girl? If he really can't live with real Naomi why he said he can? And why he's hurting her with this whole we're on\off thing? Screw the guy who doesn't know what he wants... and like Naomi said Liam is a loser. And I'm fantastic and I'm gonna meet someone a thousand times better.

totally agree with tvfan5

the fact that he knew who Naomi is doesn't make her more valuable , she still stays manipulative self-centered person , Liam is much higher then that ... maybe he thought he can deal with her character when he returned to her , but second time was enough to understand that he was wrong!


IMO , as I already said about 100 times , Naomi needs more solid man/guy who will be the one to contol and edify her , otherwise she'll continue to use her pressure and impudence on other schoolboys!

That's true that Liam knew who Naomi was and he could have backed out, but Liam also changed throughout the season and apparently his feelings changed too. Plus, I don't think Liam meant that it's okay if she lies to him, I think he meant it like 'I know and accept who you are but I also know that you wouldn't do something to hurt me'. Just because he accepts her, doesn't mean he gives permission for her to constantly lie to him. That's just my opinion though.

I agree with everything S said! c'mon Liam was attracted to Naomi's bitchy personality and that was obvios in the episodes after "winter wonderland" and he even said it in "girl's fight".. he loved how fierced and indepent she was.... anyway, liam ikeeps change his ming.. seriously he needs to see what he wants. Apart from that I would really really want liomi to end up together, that's what makes sense... Annie should find a guy to herself and stop going after Naomi's borfriends... what an envious person!

sad , but it's Naomi's guys who ALWAYS choose Annie , second even doesn't need to do anything .lol

Definitely Liam deserves better , what Naomi can afford him : understanding , support , reliability , friendship ??!! ... nah, this girl got used only to receive ... maybe she'll change in future , but to say that Naomi is a victim of cruel cheater Liam is just ****

There is no denying that Liam changed in season 2, and I hate how you guys are making it seem like such a bad thing to change how you feel. I hate Brooke&Lucas from One Tree Hill, but when people would say that Brooke stole all the guys (Lucas, Julian) from Peyton (because she was 'jealous'), I'd get annoyed. It isn't different here. Brooke is engaged to a guy that Peyton had first, so why should this be any different? Annie and Liam have an emotional connection and I don't think it should be squashed and wasted just because he was first with Naomi. Oh and ***SPOILER****** I hear that Annie refuses to be with Liam behind Naomi's back and she tells him that they can only be friends (which he turns down). So, Annie isn't jealous of Naomi, she obviously cares about her and she likes the guy...give her a break.

He doesn't no what he wants! And he should understand that she wanted revenge on her sister. he had the revenge. people forget who bad Liam was. He cheated on her, and not just with a kiss, he slept with someone else, Her sister! he wasn't even man enough to say who he slept with. People easily forgave him for what he did. But when Naomi just for a moment doesn't listen to his feelings because she has her own things on her mind. People can't forgive her..
I don't get it at all. People forget about the things Liam has done. The switch from Naomi too Annie is just too big..
All the guys always falling for Annie is what makes this show unrealistic for me.. :S

Totally agree w/ S, frsbg and Sofie!!

It took me a long time to like Liam after what he did, actually.

Hmm.. I like how LN haters like to say that's Naomi 'manipulaties' Liam. Can you tell me when and where did she manipulate him? hmm?

Yeah she lied to him. What was bad. And that only proves that they weren't ready for relationship then (and I FUCKING hate when people say that NL was JUST physical and try to deny that Liam said HE LOVED NAOMI! *rolleyes*)

And I also like how EVERY LA shipper seems to think that Liam is such a wonderfull guy. Really?! Cheater, thief (he stolen money from his stepfather after all) and actually doesn't care about his gl problems - did he care about Jen? NOOO! He cared about his stuff only (I actually don't find it as a bad thing but I had to say it since you guys like to say that it's bad when Naomi does it.)

but it's Naomi's guys who ALWAYS choose Annie
always? I had no idea that 2 guys make 'always'...
+ I just realised Ethan broke up with Annie and went after Silver. MAAAAAAAAAAAH SHIP STILL HAVE A CHANSE!! WOOT! LS<3333


oh and SPOILER!
I hear that Annie refuses to be with Liam behind Naomi's back and she tells him that they can only be friends
and here we have my reason why I don't like Annie. You like guy?! GO FOR HIM! It's not like you are best friends with his ex! Not even ordinary friends!!! GOD! It only looks like she's scared of Naomi not sorry for her...;/



And this way too long comment is not just to start another fight (I really think we can't say anything positive about LN or negative about LA here anymore). I just wanted to say mu opinion xd

lol , I see contradiction , first you say Liam was SO MADLY in love with Naomi , then you say he doesn't care about her ... according to previous posts Liam is bore and nothing from bad boy has left in him , now you say opposite ... if you want to mention how bad Liam was before dating Naomi , then I don't see how it's related to this pick , he has changed , while Naomi haven't . He bacame better , Naomi stayed the same.
As I see here is the question more about their relationships , so again I don't see how Liam's theft is connected to it . He protected her and listened to her when she needed it . So how he is bad after that ?

but it's Naomi's guys who ALWAYS choose Annie
always? I had no idea that 2 guys make 'always'...
+ I just realised Ethan broke up with Annie and went after Silver. MAAAAAAAAAAAH SHIP STILL HAVE A CHANSE!! WOOT! LS<3333

Well all guys she DATED(for real , not 2 days crush) ended up loving Annie. <3

and here we have my reason why I don't like Annie. You like guy?! GO FOR HIM! It's not like you are best friends with his ex! Not even ordinary friends!!! GOD! It only looks like she's scared of Naomi not sorry for her...;/

I really don't understand that , she is refusing to date Liam - she is a bitch , she is dating Liam - double bitch , people need to stop being biased!

""""and here we have my reason why I don't like Annie. You like guy?! GO FOR HIM! It's not like you are best friends with his ex! Not even ordinary friends!!! GOD! It only looks like she's scared of Naomi not sorry for her...;/"""

(sorry Idk how to do italics haha)

So you're saying that if Annie goes after Liam and decides to be with him despite Naomi, you'll hate her. Yet, you hate her because she doesn't go after Liam? I'm confused. And actually, Liam never lied to Naomi regarding the coins...he was going to tell her the truth, but she didn't have the time of day because she was too busy trying to get revenge on Jen (despite Liam's wishes).

Oh and IMO it's okay to have a debate, it doesn't mean we're fighting. We aren't mean to each other and I find debates pretty damn fun.

^ lol , I agree
Anyway we have found our point of balance - majority don't want Liomi to be together xD

AMEN to sk91! i totally agree, yea sure naomi is a little bitchy and manipualtive but liam knew that! he knew what he was getting into in a relationship with her. he needs to stop being such a girl and make up his mind. naomi does deserve better, she deserves someone who can keep up with her, and someone who can see thru her BS and like her for who she is. and personally id give annie mad props for being a good friend and not going after liam, but heck i wouldnt care if she did, cuz seriously liam isnt really much of a catch, yea he's hot, but so are 247213478239472324 other guys in beverly hills LMFAO. and yea, ethan went for annie, but annie and ethan=WORST COUPLE EVER. she has a tendancy of making people boring loll. naomi is an exciting character with a lot of layers, shes deffo the head bitch in charge, but shes vunerable and sweet too. (people seriously need to rewatch the damn finale, try focusing on the NOT lannie scenes for once GAWD!) plus naomi is confident in who she is, shes true to herself, she can admit the wrongs shes done and she can be dissapointed in herself, which i think are extremley admirable qualities. if liam wants to hit up annie, he can go rite ahead cuz really its his loss. TEAM NAOMI, BOO LIAM. BRING BACK OZZIE! hehehe

^^To me it doesn't seem like he is having problems making up his mind...? It seems like he already made it up when he broke up with Naomi in the finale. I don't think that's the problem. But your comment was objective and i respect your opinion.

i actually love Naomi. She may be bitchy, but i think its funny, sometimes a little over the top. But....she doesnt deserve him. its not that either of them is perfect, its just that, in the last few episodes of season 2, she always made the conversation about HER when she was with liam. that sucks. Naomi is a pretty, exciting character, maybe the most exciting, but that doesnt escuse the way she treats liam. he deserves so much better.

Liam is really delicate while Naomi is really egocentric and that´s not a good match. They could work things out but none is better or less than the other

I think ! I used to love them so much but Naomi just ruined everything that i started to love Annie and Liam more !

Annie!!

If this were season 1 Liam we were talking about, I might have answered differently. However, he really changed in season 2. I know a lot of people hated how "soft" he became, but because of that change, Naomi no longer suited him. Now don't get me wrong, Naomi has some good traits. Sure, she can be a Queen Bitch, but she can also be a really good friend. But deep down, she is spoiled, self-centered and high maintenance - and that is NOT the type of girl a guy like Liam needs.

Seriously, if you watch any scene with either him and Annie or him and Ivy and then compare them with scenes of him and Naomi, it's easy to see that he's happier around other girls who are the opposite of Naomi.

Great. It's just another Lannie vs Liomi pick to cause a serious shippers' fight. I'm not gonna be a part of it like at all.

i love liam and naomi together.
but apart, liams a bore.